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  • Jan 17, 2009, 04:42 AM
    BrentNumber1
    She's dating a guy with the same name!
    I'm 31, seem to have my life in good order (good job, friends, family support, etc.) but I've been an emotional wreck lately. SORRY, LONG POST FOLLOWS.

    To start at the beginning, I met a girl almost 3 years ago after we were both coming out of fairly serious relationships. I was immediately attracted to this girl and felt almost instantly that she was the girl I'd been waiting my life for. Before you dismiss this, I've never in my life felt this way about anyone else before so soon after meeting them and as I will describe below, this feeling had plenty of time to cultivate over the years of friendship.

    We started as friends as neither of us were really in a place to jump into a new relationship. We were both coming out of other serious relationships when we met, hers more so. She was absolutely devastated over her last breakup and I (stupidly) helped get her back on her feet. That evolved into becoming best friends after a few months and eventually the friendship took a turn to friends + something more. There were many stops and starts along the way but eventually we were exclusively dating about 5 months after meeting- sleeping over, traveling together, meeting respective families, talking nightly for hours, all the things I would ordinarily classify as "being in a relationship." But she never classified it that way though and never referred to me as her boyfriend (HUGE MISSED WARNING SIGN). Anyway, after a couple months of pseudo relationship, she said that she "wasn't ready to commit to a relationship" and went off on how hurt and scared she was from her previous relationship and that she didn't feel the same way about me as she did her ex. She backed away bigtime and I was devastated.
    Another issue to keep in mind is that she has a strange problem where sex is very painful for her and that was part of the reason the relationship she was in before me failed. She had surgery, went to physical therapy, etc. but still had issues. Probably in large part because of this, her sex drive was very low and sexual encounters were few and far between. She was very fearful of the "requirement" of sexual availabiliy in an official bf/gf relationship.

    Anyway, back to the timeline, gradually we built up the close friendship again and a few months down the road we were dating exclusively again for another few months before she backed away again claiming that a relationship was too constraining and I wasn't "The One." This time, we stayed out of contact afterward for a few months. The friendship was again built up very slowly over the course of the following year- me dating a few other people in the process but still carrying a torch for her deep down. I was finally sure I was 100% over romantically her when out of the blue she came back into my life after getting suddenly jealous of a new girl I was dating at the time and saying that she had taken me for granted this whole time. Seeing that I was ready to slip away from her life, she went into full-on seduction mode and reeled me back in one final time (with me dumping the other girl I was with to be with her) before ditching me again a few months later one last humiliating time with yet another exlaimation that I wasn't "the one" for her and had never been "the one" for her. She still wanted to maintain the friendship but wanted us both to move on. Not as much devastation time #3 but still a lot of bitterness on my part for falling for this girl's antics yet again.

    Looking back, obviously the main problem is that I always was far more into her than she into me. She was the most beautiful girl I had ever dated and I certainly let that beauty blind me and let her treat me like a doormat. Nobody can love a doormat. =(

    The other huge issue was that in our 3 year up and down "non-relationship" she never was in an official relationship with anyone else and I was as close to being in a relationship with her as anyone. Sure there were a few other guys that came into the picture briefly but I was the only one to have slept with her in this entire time frame. Being the closest thing to a boyfriend to her and as her best friend over this period, I figured fear of commitment was just a personal issue she had to deal with and was feeling OK with moving on because we'd given it a try a few times and it kept failing. I still had hope that we could continue to be friends as we had been with the benefit of time. We talked and e-mailed weekly-biweekly and still met occasionally after fallout #3 in late October.

    This all came to a crashing halt when I found out recently that not only is she dating someone who shares my same (rather uncommon) name, she is in an official "relationship" with this person!! The same person who wouldn't make any sort of commitment to me in 3 years is now committed to someone else she'd known for a couple of months. I was devastated and decided immediately to cut off all contact-phone, Facebook, e-mail, etc. It's been 8 days but I still have pathetic feelings of longing for her and the friendship that is gone (my own choice for my own sanity). The worst thing is the ego blow though, essentially getting dumped 3 times by someone I was madly infatutated with and "replaced" by another in short time by someone who shares my own freaking name.

    I'm really too old to be putting up with this drama. I'm perfectly fine with the idea of settling down but for some reason the thrill of chasing the beautiful girl that is just out of reach still haunts me. For some reason it's hard to be attracted to perfectly nice girls that don't make my heart skip. Am I doomed to a life of singledom? Do I need to readjust my standards? What the hell is wrong with me?
  • Jan 17, 2009, 07:56 AM
    nike 1
    Just a thought, but is it possible you are infatuated with her over her looks? Seems like the most beautiful girl you've ever been with. But that doesn't mean you won't have another. Apparently you had what it takes to get her a little. So what standards do you need to adjust? I'd say a woman who wants to be with you and says you are the one.
  • Jan 17, 2009, 07:59 AM
    Fr_Chuck

    After 3 years if there is no official relatioship, it is time to move on
  • Jan 17, 2009, 09:03 AM
    liz28

    You answer your own question with this statement "Looking back, obviously the main problem is that I always was far more into her than she into me. She was the most beautiful girl I had ever dated and I certainly let that beauty blind me and let her treat me like a doormat. Nobody can love a doormat. =(

    You love the chase and want you don't need. Move past this girl and let go. You are your own barrier and your stopping yourself from letting go.

    Stop focusing on her life and focus on your. Who cares who she is dating and what his name is. Get out of her life. Your causing your own misery and who wants to live in misery.
  • Jan 17, 2009, 09:12 AM
    talaniman

    The good news is if you let go and give yourself time to focus on you and not her, the future is whatever you make it.

    The bad news is, if you don't stay out of her business, and get your own, you will be miserable.
  • Jan 17, 2009, 12:48 PM
    BrentNumber1

    Obviously you are all right, I need to move on. I'm headed in that direction with the 8 days of NC.

    I think I might have overemphasized the role her looks had in my attraction. We both considered each other "best friends" and I was more emotionally intimite with her than anyone else I'd been with in my life. I guess I'm trying to get at the fact that it wasn't just me chasing her the entire 3 years.

    Bottom line, it wasn't meant to be and I need to move on for my own sanity. It's just hard to lose someone who was such an important part of your life for so long. I know her family really well and liked them. We shared everything in common- values, hobbies, etc. . Biggest lesson learned is not to wait for something no matter how right it feels and NEVER EVER try to be friends first with someone you have romantic feelings for.
  • Jan 17, 2009, 01:04 PM
    kctiger

    I have been there before. I found out on my birthday that my ex was dating a guy with the same name as me... you know what I came to find out a couple of months later?

    It doesn't F-ING matter!!

    After some time, you will realize that it has not effect on your ilfe whatsoever, and as long as you don't LET it bother you, you can and WILL be happy eventually.
  • Jan 17, 2009, 03:52 PM
    sully123

    Do yourself a favor, just don't let her wheel you in again, even if she breaks up with this new one. It's time to move on. There are plenty of girls out there, that I am sure you can find, that won't put you through this. Evidently, beauty isn't everything.
  • Jan 18, 2009, 11:22 AM
    slapshot_oi

    I can beat that, my ex is dating someone that she admits looks like me. I laughed at her.

    Anyway, in regards to your story, it sounds like she thought you were a real nice guy and wanted to try for something more, but in the end it took her three times to realize she just likes you as a friend.

    Was there ever a time you thought she was out of your league or that you were extremely lucky she chose to be with you?
  • Jan 18, 2009, 12:15 PM
    southerngalps

    You seem you are very well put together and a decent person.

    She did use you as a doormat probably to help her deal with her own insecurities.

    You deserve much better. I think you had a weak moment with this girl.

    But from this you have learned many things. Take that and find "the one."
  • Jan 18, 2009, 07:23 PM
    BrentNumber1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by slapshot_oi View Post
    I can beat that, my ex is dating someone that she admits looks like me. I laughed at her.

    Anyway, in regards to your story, it sounds like she thought you were a real nice guy and wanted to try for something more, but in the end it took her three times to realize she just likes you as a friend.

    Was there ever a time you thought she was out of your league or that you were extremely lucky she chose to be with you?

    Wow, that is rough. If you had the strength to laugh it off though you must have been at a pretty good place when she revealed this to you. Much better than the place I was at least when I heard about the other Brent.

    It's now day #9 of NC and I'm feeling OK... still sad at times but OK. I keep thinking I see her car/her, in old familiar haunts and it gives me both a twinge of excitement, scare and saddness all at the same time. I think you hit it on the nose with her thinking I was a wonderful friend so why not give it a shot only to keep finding out that the spark wasn't there for whatever reason. She said as much in an e-mail- that on paper I'm perfect for her but for whatever reason I just don't give her butterflies. It's definitely worse than if she hated my personality or some other aspect about me was incompatible. Who wouldn't want to fall in love with their best friend?

    Was there a time I felt she was out of my league or that I was lucky to be with her? There were moments I suppose where I wondered what she saw in me but it was more of a feeling that everything was storybook perfect- falling in love with your best friend. What could be better?

    I went on a date last night with someone I met through an internet dating site who was nice but wasn't a good relationship match. I'm almost embarrassed to admit but just the mere fact that she seemed to be very interested despite my disinterest was a huge ego boost. For the record, I didn't lead this girl on in any way into thinking there might be something more, I just view 1st dates as putting out feelers anyway. This is the 3rd date I've been on since the "breakup" in October with 2 in January and 1 in November. I have a few more lined up for later this week.

    Is it a good idea to be putting myself out there before I feel fully healed?
  • Jan 18, 2009, 08:34 PM
    talaniman

    If you do it for the fun, and company. If your looking to replace what you lost, your asking for trouble.
  • Jan 18, 2009, 09:05 PM
    Noodles15

    Man, I dated a guy named Brent who was a drummer, and my next boyfriend after that was also named brent and a drummer


    So, I don't know about your predicament or what would help you, the first brent was a complete to me and dumped me, so it's not quite the same situation, but you're not alone, if that helps at all.
  • Jan 19, 2009, 09:31 AM
    slapshot_oi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BrentNumber1
    ...I think you hit it on the nose with her thinking I was a wonderful friend so why not give it a shot only to keep finding out that the spark wasn't there for whatever reason. She said as much in an e-mail- that on paper I'm perfect for her but for whatever reason I just don't give her butterflies. It's definitely worse than if she hated my personality or some other aspect about me was incompatible. Who wouldn't want to fall in love with their best friend?

    I have to agree with your ex's stance on friendships and dating.

    Even if my best friend was a gorgeous woman, I wouldn't date her because a solid male-to-female friendship is really a brother-sister, father-daughter (some Freudian) relationship; it would be awkward so, naturally, there wouldn't be any chemistry. However, I would date a good friend, or better yet acquaintance, whom I can have fun and joke around with, and, of course, one that I'm sexually attracted to.

    Your case is one of Platonic friends.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BrentNumber1
    Was there a time I felt she was out of my league or that I was lucky to be with her? There were moments I suppose where I wondered what she saw in me but it was more of a feeling that everything was storybook perfect- falling in love with your best friend. What could be better?

    I only asked this because if you had felt this way, even once, this would show her you lack confidence, or as Keruoc puts it, "unself-confidence". That's a usually a deal-breaker.
  • Jan 19, 2009, 10:28 PM
    BrentNumber1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by slapshot_oi View Post
    I have to agree with your ex's stance on friendships and dating.

    Even if my best friend was a gorgeous woman, I wouldn't date her because a solid male-to-female friendship is really a brother-sister, father-daughter (some Freudian) relationship; it would be awkward so, naturally, there wouldn't be any chemistry. However, I would date a good friend, or better yet acquaintance, whom I can have fun and joke around with, and, of course, one that I'm sexually attracted to.

    Your case is one of Platonic friends.


    I only asked this because if you had felt this way, even once, this would show her you lack confidence, or as Keruoc puts it, "unself-confidence". That's a usually a deal-breaker.

    Really disagree with you on this being merely a case of "Platonic friends." I can see blurring that line maybe once but 3 separate times?! Especially when you know the other person feels so strongly about you?! Do friends sleep together just to try it on for size?

    Bottom line, it doesn't matter, whatever we had is over and it's time to move on. Have been on a few successful, fun dates in a row now and my confidence is back to a good place vs. its low point in the days post-dumping.

    One strange thing- I had a dream last night that I looked at her online profile and saw pictures of her with the new guy. Does that count as breaking NC? Lol.
  • Jan 22, 2009, 08:13 PM
    BrentNumber1
    Angry Phase
    2 threads merged

    So, it's day #13 NC for me from my best-friend 3 yr "non-relationship."
    Reading a lot of great stuff on here and realizing that I was by means alone in my feelings post-breakup. Most importantly, that my feeling of "the one that got away" was completely normal and completely wrong in retrospect. It's amazing how caring so much about someone can make you put the blinders on.

    Does non-reciprocated love = real love I was feeling for her or did I just live 3 years in complete dillusion?

    I'm at a point now where I have let go of the thought of there ever being a relationship but I have a lot of anger- seeing all the ways she took advantage of my feelings for her and manipulated them for her own advantage. Angry at myself, angry at her, angry at thoughts of the relationship in general. My thoughts of wanting to hear from her now are that I only want her to contact me so I can reject her. Are these normal feelings? Is this a phase? Is this a good step in the healing process? Do you need to move on from anger before you're truly healed or is anger = over? I guess it doesn't because I still mourn the loss of what I thought our future might entail. But at least I'm over doormat phase and onto anger right? :D
  • Jan 22, 2009, 08:22 PM
    slapshot_oi

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BrentNumber1
    Does non-reciprocated love = real love I was feeling for her or did I just live 3 years in complete dillusion?

    Read 1 Corinthians 13:1-13. I'm sure several people on this forum are familiar with that.
  • Jan 22, 2009, 09:59 PM
    zeeniee

    Hi Brentnumber1,
    I think the anger part is part of the healing process... once things calm down around you you start to realise so many things, like how they took advantage of you, how they really did not care at the end, how much you loved them and how much energy you placed in that relationship etc... and so I think the anger is v normal... I am at this stage myself- I am FURIOUS with my ex- yet I am still hurting...
    Hopefully in time these feelings will past like with all other phase in time and space and will be replaced with happy feelings... one can just hope...
  • Jan 22, 2009, 10:16 PM
    friend4u178

    If you read a lot of the literature on various websites etc. they generally come up with 5 stages that go like this...

    The Five Stages of a Break Up

    Denial:
    "I feel fine, we still love each other." “She is still my best friend.” “We will always be in each others' lives.”

    Anger:
    "It's not fair!?" "I was always there for her and she was never there for me!" “That !” “That !” “She sucked in bed!” “ I couldn't stand her friends anyway.”


    Bargaining:
    "If we just go to therapy it will get better." "I promise to visit your parents this Christmas.” “Just give it another chance.”

    Depression:
    "I can't stop crying." "I want to die.” “I will never date again.””I'm going to die alone…” “I'm unlovable.”


    Acceptance:
    "We are better off, not together." ”I am content and happy with myself.” "I welcome a new start."
  • Jan 22, 2009, 10:19 PM
    zeeniee

    Cheers Friend4u178,
    I think my breakup has gone through the 5 phases, but not necessarily in that order- its been a yo- yo and the anger arrived - I am hoping at the end... after the denial,bargaining, depression, acceptance..

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