I have a 20x40 concrete pool and want it gone! :mad:

It is a Garter (brand) pool and all cement, over 9 feet deep. Does it make sense to just remove the cement "apron" from around the pool and then fill the pool in with dirt, etc.
OR...
I was told by an acquaintance that the cement has to have holes drilled in it and the cement broken up, filled by alternating layers of dirt, sand, concrete, etc. and that the cost is approximately $10K.
OR...
do I have to breakup the concrete and have everything hauled away? Even more $$$ ?

Thank you!!

I'm an excavator an I like cheap was of doing things
Hire a backhoe operator with a rock breaker hammer he can reach in there and break up the whole bottom and knock off a foot or two off the sides. Let the side fall in for fill.
I charge for my backhoe JD 310 $95.00 per hr. plus load time 1 hr. Rock hammer attachment same per hour, It will take approx 8 hrs or less depending how thick the Crete
You do not need to do any special fill layers once the bottom is broken up no water will collect to be a mud hole and now it's a big ditch
The biggest cost is trucking in fill and dirt. Here's a way to get around that. Put of a sign with your no. saying "Clean Fill Wanted' What an excavator won't tell you. It's a pain for us to find places for us to dump our leftover loads of dirt rocks etc stone.You don't want big rock in there unless it's the first load. Have a good place to get this dumped by the pool. Once you get some good loads you can hire a hoe again or rent a Bobcat to run in the dirt pile. I suggest hire a backhoe or a Bobcat and operator and he can move that pile of dirt in. Once you get the bottom filled rent a ground tamper and tamp the first 1.5 foot or so. And sequencly they same 1.5 fill gain until the top 6 inches and that's the topsoil part This will greaty help it from settling in years to come and not be a sink hole constantly. Do this every 1.5 feet and keep getting free loads in that's what kills you in costs to truck in and fill if you have to pay for the loads.
Break up bottom of pool $1,615,00
Rent bobcat or hire an operator. 2 to 3 hrs run first load of dirt in $ 195.00
rent tamper $ 50.00
That's 1.5 feet filled = $ 1,860.00
6 more times bobcat/tamper $ 1,470.00
Top soil dump load 500.00 $ 500.00
These are close approx so the low end is $ 3,830.00
This is close and the diff is you didn't have to pay for trucking/hauling fill
Ps don't accept left over asphalt or job site debrie. Just natural earth
Dirt rock brick cement block sand crushed stone just this list here will keep the D.E.R. and township off your back it earth safe.

Signed 21 Boat

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Are you inside a city limit, if so check with your building department. My building department requires all concrete to be completely removed as well as all piping. Caving that thing in would be nice but its worth checking first.

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That's pretty interesting here the state brakes the old state concrete roads up and uses it for sub base or breaks it up more for crush and run material. Even our county airport and our international airport has been has been accepting concrete fill still for 35 years to build the ground up to land Planes. If concrete was comsidered a pot hole problem I dount it would be used to land planes on Its accepted here by DER and is considered clean fill. Our commercial sites also accepts concrete as clean fill outside the building structures. I guess they think its no different than buried concrete septic tanks or the footers we pour in the U.S. to hold up our end of the world. But hay that's the diff gov thing from state to state but DER is pretty much a nationwide thing.
Interesting. My only guess here is your City doesn't want to have the chance of illegal dumping around the town which may or may not explain things But somebody's is getting a lot of concrete out of your city limits

21, I did question our building department and got a variety of answers. #1 they don't want to have an inspector on site to watch how well the walls were broken up and they don't want caverns. 32 they again don't want an inspector to be on site to insure nothing else gets dumped into the hole, this is Chicago and we are still looking for Hoffa. #3 they do not want future home owners adding on to the building and hitting 6 tons of concrete. I think the truth is they just don't want any version of "dumping" in residential properties. It is still worth asking the question of the building inspector.

You did VERY good funny!! I agree 100% on asking the building inspector. I love the "hoffa" theory!
My question still remains though. I wander what the inspectors answer is when you Have to use clean fill to build up. I guess here we hit limestone rock a lot and have outcrops in many places. On that note we are use to rock chipping even if we hit 6 tons of crete. Is just another rock. The biggest issue here on fill is compaction. I did look up on earth goggle of your area and was AMAZED to what appeared to be tons of pools and looked liked they were above ground.
Thanks for posting back on the restrictions of fill in your area. Our basic control of fill mixed with crete is on a percentage basis so proper compaction can be achieved. The irony of that if natural stone is in place of conc they don't bother with that whatsoever. We are required to fill in old septic tanks with crushed 2b clean stone and cap.