The birthplace of Jesus “Bethlehem” mean “house of bread”.
Ancient commentators on that interpret it as a prefiguring of the Eucharist.
Jesus came to earth in the “house of bread”, and comes to us in the form of Living Bread every time we receive Him under the forms of unleavened bread and wine in that blessed sacrament.
(From the Our Sunday Visitor)
:)Peace and kindness,:)
Fred

Thanks that is interesting.

N0help4u,
You're welcome.
Merry Holy Christmas.
Fred

Thanks for sharing that with us arcura . I had no idea it meant that

Merry christmas

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The birthplace of Jesus “Bethlehem” mean “house of bread”.
Ancient commentators on that interpret it as a prefiguring of the Eucharist.
Jesus came to earth in the “house of bread”, and comes to us in the form of Living Bread every time we receive Him under the forms of unleavened bread and wine in that blessed sacrament.
(From the Our Sunday Visitor)
:)Peace and kindness,:)
Fred

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I didn’t know that, Interesting isn’t it? So, we have “the Bread of Life” who comes from the House of Bread. It seems that the Hebrews had a prophetic knack for naming things appropriately.

Good job,

JoeT

ironsheik7 and JoeT.
Glad to be of service.
Have a Merry and Holy Christ'smass
Fred

More about the word "lehem":

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What can you say about a culture that uses the same root — Hebrew (lamed, het, mem) — for both bread Hebrew (lehem, accent on the first syllable) and war, Hebrew(milhama)? Do Hebrew (lehem) and Hebrew (milhama) really come from the same root? It's a good question, and to answer it one must invoke a third use of the root. It seems that Hebrew (laham) means not only "he did battle" and "he ate bread" but also "he joined together."

Using this third meaning, Ludwig Koehler, in his 1953 Dictionary of the Hebrew Old Testament, opines that our root originally had the connotation of "to be closely packed together" and that that meaning is the common denominator. In war, says Koehler, soldiers often engage in hand-to-hand combat in close quarters. Voilà for war, Hebrew (milhama). Bread, he adds, suggesting perhaps that it is considered highly nutritious, is "compact food." Voilà for bread, Hebrew(lehem).
(Source: JHOM - Bread - Hebrew)
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Interesting.
Fred

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More about the word "lehem":

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What can you say about a culture that uses the same root — Hebrew (lamed, het, mem) — for both bread Hebrew (lehem, accent on the first syllable) and war, Hebrew(milhama)? Do Hebrew (lehem) and Hebrew (milhama) really come from the same root? It's a good question, and to answer it one must invoke a third use of the root. It seems that Hebrew (laham) means not only "he did battle" and "he ate bread" but also "he joined together."

Using this third meaning, Ludwig Koehler, in his 1953 Dictionary of the Hebrew Old Testament, opines that our root originally had the connotation of "to be closely packed together" and that that meaning is the common denominator. In war, says Koehler, soldiers often engage in hand-to-hand combat in close quarters. Voilà for war, Hebrew (milhama). Bread, he adds, suggesting perhaps that it is considered highly nutritious, is "compact food." Voilà for bread, Hebrew(lehem).

(Source: JHOM - Bread - Hebrew)
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WetBlanket:

Quoted from the same referenced web page is the following part of a discussion regarding the Book of Ruth:

"Elimelech's family left Bethlehem because of a famine,[3] and arrived in the fields of Moab.[4] One cannot but sense the irony in this passage. They leave Bethlehem (beit lehem in Hebrew means literally "house of bread") during a famine, hinting to the reader that they had made a tragic mistake — leaving a literal "house of bread" during times of famine to go to the fields of Moab. A house denotes a warm environment, as opposed to a field that lies open and unprotected. In biblical writings, the empty field is an image that often precedes tragedy."


Source: Jewish Heritage Online Magazine

Now who would know how to speak in Hebrew better than a Jew; - unless maybe we forgot about Tj3!

JoeT

JoeT777
LOL

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WetBlanket:

Quoted from the same referenced web page is the following part of a discussion regarding the Book of Ruth:

"Elimelech's family left Bethlehem because of a famine,[3] and arrived in the fields of Moab.[4] One cannot but sense the irony in this passage. They leave Bethlehem (beit lehem in Hebrew means literally "house of bread") during a famine, hinting to the reader that they had made a tragic mistake — leaving a literal "house of bread" during times of famine to go to the fields of Moab. A house denotes a warm environment, as opposed to a field that lies open and unprotected. In biblical writings, the empty field is an image that often precedes tragedy."


Source: Jewish Heritage Online Magazine

Now who would know how to speak in Hebrew better than a Jew; - unless maybe we forgot about Tj3!

JoeT

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Joe what is your problem? Do you think that only you can choose who can post and who cannot? You think that it is okay for your to quote this source, but I cannot? Do you consider the day lost if you don't post abuse against me?

Grow up.

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Putting aside all my complaints TJ, Merry Christmas.

And Merry Christmas to all!


JoeT

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Putting aside all my complaints TJ, Merry Christmas.

And Merry Christmas to all!

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Merry Christmas, Joe.

I hope that after you've had a good rest at Christmas, maybe we can have more amiable discussions.

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The birthplace of Jesus “Bethlehem” mean “house of bread”.
Ancient commentators on that interpret it as a prefiguring of the Eucharist.
Jesus came to earth in the “house of bread”, and comes to us in the form of Living Bread every time we receive Him under the forms of unleavened bread and wine in that blessed sacrament.
(From the Our Sunday Visitor)
:)Peace and kindness,:)
Fred

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It is wonderful and it is no coincidence. And the Holy Infant was placed in a "manger" a feeding trough where grains, the component of bread are placed. What does the word "manger" mean in the original language:

Manger Look up manger at Dictionary.com
c.1315, from O.Fr. Mangeure (Fr. Mangeoire), from mangier "to eat" (see mange) + -oire, common suffix for implements and receptacles.
Online Etymology Dictionary

Thanks Fred, another excellent question!

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Merry Christmas, Joe.

I hope that after you've had a good rest at Christmas, maybe we can have more amiable discussions.

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Our discussions have always been friendly on this end; a bit lively and pointed at times, but always friendly.

JoeT

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Our discussions have always been friendly on this end; a bit lively and pointed at times, but always friendly.

JoeT

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Your input to me has been abusive much of the time. I am hoping that will change.

De Maria.
Thanks for that bit about the manger
Peace and kindness,
Fred

JoeT.
I agree.
You have always been friendly.
Sometimes with a bit of humor.
Fred

Tj3,
Have you ever stopped to wonder why it is that you are the only one here who complains that others are attacking you?
When someone tells a truth and prove you wrong that you don't like you complain about abuse. The only one who does that also.
With all due respect manybe you should consider some behavior counseling.
May you get and receive Peace and Kindness always,
Fred

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Tj3,
Have you ever stopped to wonder why it is that you are the only one here who complains that others are attacking you?

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Fred, no it is not just me. But there are a few folk who seems to have problems with those who disagree. The same few folk who had the same problem on other boards. The rest of us prefer to engage in respectful discussions.

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When someone tells a truth and prove you wrong that you don't like you complain about abuse.

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So name-calling, false accusations and other forms of abuse are, to you, simply "truths" and acceptable in civilized discussion? Does your "faith" teach that? Is this included in the "works" that you feel are necessary for salvation?