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  • Dec 20, 2008, 10:47 PM
    razorface
    Ignition failure
    My Goodman furnace shows a one blink code that translates to ignition failure and suggests checking the flame sensor (which I replaced) the gas valve (which I replaced) gas pressure (had new gas meter installed) or restricted gas flow (which I can't imagine) Any help is greatly appreciated.
  • Dec 20, 2008, 11:00 PM
    wmproop

    Is the igniter working(glowing) when it should be?

    The steps for a furnace to start up and work proper
    1. the thermostat calls for heat
    2. the inducer motor starts up (maybe for 30 sec.
    3. the igniter comes on (glows)
    4. the gas valve then opens and burners fire up
    5. after maybe 1 minute the blower comes on and blows heat into ductwork which routes heat into house

    The gas valve won`t open up until the igniter comes on
  • Dec 20, 2008, 11:00 PM
    KC13

    Observe operating sequence, should go like this: 1) inducer starts/runs, 20-40 seconds 2) ignitor glows, 17-34 seconds 3) gas control opens & burners light, 25-40 seconds 4) blower starts/runs for duration of heating cycle. Post back.
  • Dec 20, 2008, 11:01 PM
    KC13
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wmproop View Post
    is the igniter working(glowing) when it should be?

    the steps for a furnace to start up and work proper
    1. the thermostat calls for heat
    2. the inducer motor starts up (maybe for 30 sec.
    3. the igniter comes on (glows)
    4. the gas valve then opens and burners fire up
    5. after maybe 1 minute the blower comes on and blows heat into ductwork which routes heat into house

    Damn! It's true, great minds do think alike...
  • Dec 20, 2008, 11:06 PM
    wmproop
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by razorface View Post
    My Goodman furnace shows a one blink code that translates to ignition failure and suggests checking the flame sensor (which I replaced) the gas valve (which I replaced) gas pressure (had new gas meter installed) or restricted gas flow (which I can't imagine) Any help is greatly appreciated.

    You may have replace the flame sensor and gas valve and didn`t need to,, the flame sensor very seldom goes bad,, (just needs cleaning with fine sandpaper)
    The gas valve won`t open till the flame sensor sees the igniter glowing
  • Dec 21, 2008, 08:37 AM
    razorface

    The gas valve is not opening and so the burners do not light.
  • Dec 21, 2008, 08:38 AM
    razorface
    The igniter is glowing hot
  • Dec 21, 2008, 08:47 AM
    razorface

    The igniter isworking but the gas valve is not
  • Dec 21, 2008, 09:36 AM
    KC13

    Check the string of limit switches that surround the burner assembly. Follow the purple wires from one to the next, press the tab in the center, see if any of them are popped. If so you may have a heat exchanger leak.
  • Dec 21, 2008, 09:48 AM
    razorface

    Is there a way to bypass the limits directly to see if the limit connections are bad?
  • Dec 21, 2008, 09:51 AM
    KC13

    Follow my earlier suggestion and check for any that are popped. This is the next step, trust me. These are there for a reason and should not be bypassed.
  • Dec 21, 2008, 09:55 AM
    razorface

    Also ,how can you find a leak in the heat exchanger?
  • Dec 21, 2008, 09:57 AM
    KC13

    Observe. If the flames start blowing stray when the blower starts, you have a problem. If the burner limit(s) are tripped, it's a bad sign that this is happening.
  • Dec 21, 2008, 09:58 AM
    razorface

    None of the switches are popped and I have 28 volts at the gas switch
  • Dec 21, 2008, 09:59 AM
    razorface
    The burners never come on
  • Dec 21, 2008, 10:07 AM
    KC13

    Do you hear the gas valve clicking during the ignition trial? If not, turn power off, pull wires off gas valve, and check continuity of gas valve coil.
  • Dec 21, 2008, 10:09 AM
    razorface

    The gas valve does not click .There is a click at the circuit board after the igniter glows but the burners do not light and the blower does not come on
  • Dec 21, 2008, 10:13 AM
    KC13

    If you have a voltmeter, set it to ohms function and check gas valve coil. Infinite resistance would indicate a failed coil. Check for terminal oxidation while you're at it.
  • Dec 21, 2008, 10:15 AM
    razorface

    I will do that now. Thanks for paying attention!
  • Dec 21, 2008, 10:37 AM
    razorface

    The gas valve coil tower , if Iunderstand this is what you mean, is located in the gas valve itself. It is new and so are the connections. The ohm meter checked at these two terminals do not go to infinity but do show a little resistance

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