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  • Dec 16, 2008, 09:28 PM
    sams721
    Is she cheating or is it me
    Hello I met this woman online I have known her for three years and in them three years we have been together off and on and I admit I have done my share of being unfaithfull to her by flirting and talking to woman on the internet I have never cheated on her physically but now things have changed she relocated to where I live and she is pregnant and the baby is mine to my knowledge and were talking about getting married too but there is some things that worry me she always has her phone on vibrate she gets all these calls from other states I know cause I see the number when it shows up on the caller id on her cell phone but she justs ignore the call when I ask her why don't she answer it she says it's my phone I don't have to answer it if I don't want to or she always says to me ever heard of the wrong number but her favorite one is it's them bill collecters help me is it me or you know I'm scared
  • Dec 16, 2008, 09:37 PM
    N0help4u

    It sounds like she is purposely not answering when you are around.
    For now all you can do is give her the benefit of the doubt.
    Quit making an issue out of the calls and maybe she will be more open or slip up. The more you ask the more she is going to hide.
  • Dec 16, 2008, 10:10 PM
    talaniman

    She clearly is not sharing everything with you. Get a paternity test, before you get married.
  • Dec 16, 2008, 10:14 PM
    neverme
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    She clearly is not sharing everything with you. Get a paternity test, before you get married.

    And before you sign a birth cert, look to the family law section for a man that went down this route.

    Best of luck.
  • Dec 16, 2008, 10:19 PM
    chuff

    While I don't think you can say she is lying, she sure does seem to be hiding something from you. It's also strange that she's moved close to you when she got pregnant, and you don't seem so sure that it's yours. It almost comes off like she's using you for financial help for the child as opposed to really into you. Again this is just speculation based on a few sentences you wrote, but I'd keep my eye on her strange behavior.
  • Dec 17, 2008, 06:34 AM
    sams721
    Is she cheating or is it me part 2
    OK despite all the phone calls she gets on her cell phone from other states I also have done her wrong to as far as flirting and talking to woman but it was only on the internet but now the situation changed her being pregnant and us talking about getting married I don't do that anymore I am making a change but she does also accuse me of cheating also and when she brings it up to me I reasure her how much I love her and how we are going to get married you know let her know how I feel so she knows I am not cheating on her and would not cheat but when I bring up these phone calls she gets from these other states and I question her she want to get mad and get attitude ( I don't have to answer my phone every time it rings or ever heard of the wrong number or it's them bill collecters or I am not going to talk to you about this right now)

    Ps. Thank you to everybody for your feedback
  • Dec 17, 2008, 06:37 AM
    N0help4u

    I would tell her that if we plan to get married we need to start a fresh start NOW ASAP. You are willing to not talk to other girls and you would feel she is more serious if she would quit getting these calls from other states. Tell her that you question her sincerity in the commitment if you two can not move ahead into a committed relationship without the baggage.
    I read the other post. I agree with the others get a paternity test she may know another guy in your town.
    I would proceed with caution with her. Make sure of her sincerity and commitment to making it work with you.
  • Dec 17, 2008, 07:42 AM
    talaniman
    I can't see getting married to someone who could not address my concerns, or answer direct questions, or reassure me with facts and understanding. Heck, I wouldn't even date someone like that!! Love may be blind, but it doesn't have to be stupid.

    Sorry guy, this is not the time to commit to something you have no facts, and too much feelings about.
  • Dec 17, 2008, 08:03 AM
    J_9
    So this is why you want lie detector tests?
  • Dec 17, 2008, 08:10 AM
    lost20

    I dated a cheater for a long time and I was very stupid for staying with him when I knew what was going on. My best advice to you is. If she is constantly accusing you of cheating on her it means that she's cheated on you and she waiting for you to admit that you cheated on her so that she will feel less quilty for what she did. Its messed up but 9 times out of 10 that's what's going on. She probably think if she can get you to confess to cheating on her then she tell admit it to you no problem and you can't get mad at her because you did to and likewise. Best of luck
  • Dec 17, 2008, 08:18 AM
    sams721
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    So this is why you want lie detector tests?

    Yes I mean since I have doubts about so many things but she is pregnant by me to my knowledge and I hope so I mean if she has cheated it's not like she will tell me in the mean time a baby is growing inside her
  • Dec 17, 2008, 08:19 AM
    N0help4u

    You go for a paternity test NOT a lie detector test.
  • Dec 17, 2008, 08:25 AM
    sams721
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I can't see getting married to someone who could not address my concerns, or answer direct questions, or reassure me with facts and understanding. Heck, I wouldn't even date someone like that!!! Love may be blind, but it doesn't have to be stupid.

    Sorry guy, this is not the time to commit to something you have no facts, and to much feelings about.

    You got a point thanks man
  • Dec 17, 2008, 08:49 AM
    xoxaprilwine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    You go for a paternity test NOT a lie detector test.

    Yes this would NOT be good. Ok so she moved with you... she came a long way to come and be with you. Now she is pregnant and still having unsure feelings about you or whether she can trust you considering the past. Chances are this is your baby BUT take a paternity test at the hospital and have it arranged before you sign off on the Birth Certificate and give your last name to the baby. It is awful that you will have to speculate and expect the worst in such a special moment. You will have to tell her how you feel and why you want the paternity test done... you can say that you don't feel that she is being honest with you 100% and you have reason to believe that because of that you want to ensure that this is in fact your baby. I have no doubt she will be upset in any event so be prepared for her defense... just be a good listener, understanding, patent, let her vent, don't interrupt, reassure her you love her, how you feel about her and the logical reasons for your request. Do you love this lady? Please don't get married just because you have a child together... make sure you say I DO because you love her. If you are not truly in love there are other ways going about this. Also, since you plan on getting married... suggest pre-marital counseling and go to it, this will give you the ability to get it out all on the table without pushing the situation directly on her. You do have a right to be heard and she does have the right to some privacy but I honestly don't think her behavior regarding the phone calls is normal. For the cheating I honestly don't think it is a physical thing either.
  • Dec 17, 2008, 09:04 AM
    sams721
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xoxaprilwine View Post
    Yes this would NOT be good. Ok so she moved with you...she came a long way to come and be with you. Now she is pregnant and still having unsure feelings about you or whether she can trust you considering the past. Chances are this is your baby BUT take a paternity test at the hospital and have it arranged before you sign off on the Birth Certificate and give your last name to the baby. It is awful that you will have to speculate and expect the worst in such a special moment. You will have to tell her how you feel and why you want the paternity test done...you can say that you don't feel that she is being honest with you 100% and you have reason to believe that because of that you want to ensure that this is in fact your baby. I have no doubt she will be upset in any event so be prepared for her defense...just be a good listener, understanding, patent, let her vent, don't interrupt, reassure her you love her, how you feel about her and the logical reasons for your request. Do you love this lady? Please don't get married just because you have a child together...make sure you say I DO because you love her. If you are not truly in love there are other ways going about this. Also, since you plan on getting married...suggest pre-marital counseling and go to it, this will give you the ability to get it out all on the table without pushing the situation directly on her. You do have a right to be heard and she does have the right to some privacy but I honestly don't think her behavior regarding the phone calls is normal. For the cheating I honestly don't think it is a physical thing either.

    OK well thank you for you input but I didn't expect an answer like this one I got from you but I got to questions for you why would think chances are good for the baby to be mine and if in fact she is cheating on any level what makes you think it's not a physical affair
  • Dec 17, 2008, 09:24 AM
    xoxaprilwine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sams721 View Post
    ok well thank you for you input but i didn't expect an answer like this one i got from you but i got to questions for you why would think chances are good for the baby to be mine and if infact she is cheating on any level what makes you think it's not a physical affair

    I know, I am objective and neutral... I don't want to over speculate and that is why I gave you the answer I did. Firstly regarding the pregnancy, she wasn't pregnant till you guys got back together (if I am incorrect; correct me). Though she has all these phone calls, they seem to be long distance... maybe an online flirting thing... she did take it too far by giving out personal information like her phone number and postal code (there are so many weirdo's out there I can't imagine giving out information like that). For her to cheat while pregnant is more then likely not going to happen because she has to be concerned about what's going on inside of her and protect herself from any possible infections... that is of course if she has those motherly instincts. I am pregnant now and if I was going to cheat on my husband (which I never have and never would) it would be a time when I am not endangering another life (exposing baby to potential STD's), my husband and I never wear protection but we do when I am pregnant just because even with something like a bladder infection or yeast infection you need to be treated... I try to avoid any sort of drug even Tylenol when pregnant. Also, there may be a chance that she did physically cheat on you during the time she was not pregnant but we can't say for sure. It is better not to assume but to find the truth of the matter and resolve the issue once and for all. If she did cheat and this is not your baby... you need to make your choice. If she did cheat but it is your baby then you need to make your choice but don't make the grave mistake assuming that she did cheat but didn't and this is your baby. This is all I am saying... stay practical and unemotional... try to find the truth.

    Secondly, cheating physically or not is not acceptable especially in such a relationship as yours. You two have been on and off for three years and there is no stability. How are you two going to come to some ground for stability and love for the new baby (if it is yours). You are making the effort and she is not (because she is not telling you everything - mind you we all have right to some privacy). It seems she has doubts about you and your loyalty to her. She also may be acting out on her insecurities and thus the phone calls. She needs to stop and start being honest with you if she wants the relationship to evolve... especially if you two are contemplating on getting married. You can't and you shouldn't say I do if you have doubts yourself... how in love are you to sign a contract that could impede you financially later if the relationship does not work out. I also wanted to say, cheating is cheating, whether physical or not, she will need to stop this if you two intend on working out your dilemma's. Pre marital counseling is a good solution for right now (or that's what I think anyhow... plus they make it fun and you learn stuff about your partner too).

    Thirdly, what kind of financial trouble is she in?
  • Dec 17, 2008, 09:43 AM
    xoxaprilwine

    I also failed to ask what other indications (other then the phone calls) is giving you the inclination that she is cheating? (ie. Is she going out all dressed up? etc.)
  • Dec 17, 2008, 09:55 AM
    sams721
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xoxaprilwine View Post
    I know, I am objective and neutral...I don't want to over speculate and that is why I gave you the answer I did. Firstly regarding the pregnancy, she wasn't pregnant till you guys got back together (if I am incorrect; correct me). Though she has all these phone calls, they seem to be long distance...maybe an online flirting thing...she did take it too far by giving out personal information like her phone number and postal code (there are so many weirdo's out there I can't imagine giving out information like that). For her to cheat while pregnant is more then likely not going to happen because she has to be concerned about whats going on inside of her and protect herself from any possible infections...that is of course if she has those motherly instincts. I am pregnant now and if I was going to cheat on my husband (which I never have and never would) it would be a time when I am not endangering another life (exposing baby to potential STD's), my husband and I never wear protection but we do when I am pregnant just because even with something like a bladder infection or yeast infection you need to be treated...I try to avoid any sort of drug even Tylenol when pregnant. Also, there may be a chance that she did physically cheat on you during the time she was not pregnant but we can't say for sure. It is better not to assume but to find the truth of the matter and resolve the issue once and for all. If she did cheat and this is not your baby...you need to make your choice. If she did cheat but it is your baby then you need to make your choice but don't make the grave mistake assuming that she did cheat but didn't and this is your baby. This is all I am saying...stay practical and unemotional...try to find the truth.

    Secondly, cheating physically or not is not acceptable especially in such a relationship as yours. You two have been on and off for three years and there is no stability. How are you two going to come to some ground for stability and love for the new baby (if it is yours). You are making the effort and she is not (because she is not telling you everything - mind you we all have right to some privacy). It seems she has doubts about you and your loyalty to her. She also may be acting out on her insecurities and thus the phone calls. She needs to stop and start being honest with you if she wants the relationship to evolve...especially if you two are contemplating on getting married. You can't and you shouldn't say I do if you have doubts yourself...how in love are you to sign a contract that could impede you financially later if the relationship does not work out. I also wanted to say, cheating is cheating, whether physical or not, she will need to stop this if you two intend on working out your dilemma's. Pre marital counseling is a good solution for right now (or that's what I think anyhow...plus they make it fun and you learn stuff about your partner too).

    Thirdly, what kind of financial trouble is she in?

    Well I met her online like I said before she is from New Jersey she worked out in New Jersey for the postal service for 4 years had her own place she has a daughter from a past relationship well a lot of things happened in her personnal life so she left her job for a little while she feel into a deep deperession to make a long story short she lost her apartment she couldn't get no financial help to keep her apartment hell she even put up the title to her car even and she still got evicted and we were talking prior to all this but I didn't find out it was this bad till I got out of jail well she then puts all her and her daughters things in storage and moved out here with me while she has been here with me she got a job but wasn't making that much money to what she was used to making so she lost her storage in New Jersey cause she couldn't pay it but now she got a better job at at&t she has her bachlers degree in computers makes more money then me so I know she ain't using me for money lol
  • Dec 17, 2008, 09:59 AM
    chuff

    Dude, you don't even believe the baby is yours 100% how can this be a woman you want to marry. This is a divorce waiting to happen. If you have this many doubts now, why go through with it.
  • Dec 17, 2008, 10:12 AM
    xoxaprilwine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sams721 View Post
    Well i met her online like i said before she is from new jersey she worked out in new jersey for the postal service for 4 years had her own place she has a daughter from a past relationship well alot of things happened in her personnal life so she left her job for a little while she feel into a deep deperession to make a long story short she lost her apartment she couldn't get no financial help to keep her apartment hell she even put up the title to her car even and she still got evicted and we were talking prior to all this but i didn't find out it was this bad till i got out of jail well she then puts all her and her daughters things in storage and moved out here with me while she has been here with me she got a job but wasn't making that much money to what she was used to making so she lost her storage in new jersey cause she couldn't pay it but now she got a better job at at&t she has her bachlers degree in computers makes more money then me so i know she ain't using me for money lol

    So if you met her online, chances are she is talking to people online... that is all I am saying. I am relieved to hear that she is not using you for money but that was not really the big concern of yours. You where not sure if she was cheating on you or not. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything - sorry :). After everything we talked about; have you decided what you are going to do?

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