Do you need to repent to be saved from hell as a bisexual or gay person?
How does one do this?
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Do you need to repent to be saved from hell as a bisexual or gay person?
How does one do this?
I am sure you are going to get a lot of different replies
If you are wanting to know what the Bible says then yes.
Some people 'condemn' homosexuals as a worse sin but the Bible doesn't state that there are different degrees of sin. Like in the story of the adulterous woman Jesus said 'Let him who is without sin cast the first stone' Now we have adulterer's condemning homosexuality.
But how do you repent? Go see a priest and say a few Hail Marys and, bob's your uncle, your saved.
I just don't get it. Am I supposed to be sorry for doing something I felt and do still feel was right?
You find it in your inner most self that you want to change things about you and you ask God for the strength to change and lead a spirit filled life.
You feel sorry for displeasing God and ask him to show you how to live a Christian life.
What Is Repentance?
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Repent!
repentance
The bible is very clear, that we have to repent of our sin.
The term repent is very clear as its use in the bible, it is a complete turning around, a change.
You can not repent until you first accept the fact it is wrong, if you believe it is OK then it is impossible to repent.
Leviticus 18: 22. `You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.
Romans 1 also says they gave up their natural passion for the same sex... very lose paraphrase.
25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
N0help4u.
Very good post.
Thanks.
Fted
neverme
Examine what you do if it is for your benefit, for your own good.Is it leading you to a better and more balanced life?Do you see any future in your life if you continue doing this?
A sin is something that does not provide something REAL to us, so is this providing you something REAL or not?Test it!
If I lie for example , I know that eventually it will hurt me in some way.I could lose a good friend, or a job ! Don't think that sin is something that God just doesn't like but think of it like it is something that hurts us and destroys our happiness.
There are so many things here to say about what is sin and what we think is sin but I will keep my thoughts for the future.
In conclusion I agree with what Fr_Chuck wrote about first realizing that what you do is not good!
Be well!
But why is it so wrong? Just because the bible says so? I know this might be hard for others to understand, thanks for your comments.
Adam, how can the person I'm with fundamentally hurt me?
Are you trying to find someone who will tell you that your life style is acceptable according to the Bible? Won't happen!Quote:
Originally Posted by neverme
The Bible is very clear on it's view of homosexuality. If you believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God then you must accept that no questions asked. However if you continue in the homosexual life style then you are saying that you do not believe the Bible and what it says. That's all there is to it!
neverme,
Bottom line is you are going OUTSIDE the boundries God has set. It may feel right now... but it won't in the end. This goes for EVERY sin. The Lord says he set before us.. LIFE and Death. Then he goes on to say... choose LIFE. For the wages of sin.. is death.
LOL.. ok. But I think I gave GREAT logic. God says.. here is death.. here is life... choose LIFE!Quote:
Originally Posted by spitvenom
HUH??
Just because we sin does not equal instant death. We in fact may live a full life, but come judgment day wou me we all will have to stand before the throne of God and answer for our sins.
Neverme, if you are a follower of Christ and have been saved then the Holy Spirit lives in you. Listen to that feeling and voice within you showing you the way to live. Jesus says "whoever wants to follow me must take up his cross daily" This is a daily decision to be made. Our life of following Christ is not going to be easy and uncomplicated it wasn't for Jesus and won't be for us. Do I believe that living a gay lifesytle is a sin? You bet. Do I love the sinner and hate the sin? You bet. It is not my or any other persons place to judge your lifestyle or actions but it is you that must live with your decisions and your free will to listen to the Holy Spirit or not. God Bless!
I don't think so Spitvenom, we reap what we sow... Along with free will to follow Christ or not, this would be up to the individual as a choice. God will allow strong delusion, that they may believe whatever their free will has elected to accept in living their life here on earth. Satan's role is to cause the deception just as he did with Adam and Eve.Quote:
Originally Posted by spitvenom
We have a choice in free will and somewhere along the way the heart accepted the deception that was given by satan. This was true in Sodom and Gomorrah, (Genesis 19:5) when Lot tried to offer his daughters instead of the man angels that had come to his home. ( Genesis 19:8) In the end God decided because of their evil way the city would be destroyed.
When we follow Christ we walk in Christ. The protection Christ offers each individual is the armor that we are told to put on against deception.
(Isa59:17) Just as 1 Peter tells us to arm ourselves and suffer in the flesh to stop sin.
1 Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
So much of this and other such manners are whether we put God first, and above all else in free will. Whether we have been baptized into new life with the Holy Spirit as Christ commanded. (Matthew 28:16-20) And whether we remain in Christ and in the light which is the path of the lamp in law, and righteousness. (Isa 42:6) (1 Sa 22:29) (Prov 6:23)
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I am glad you got over that it can be nasty. Some say addiction is hereditary I don't believe that since my Aunt and Uncle are Raging alcoholics and my cousin never drinks.
But that is not the same as being gay. When I was 10 I had a friend when he would call or come over my dad would say fruity is here or other mean things like that skip ahead 15 years he comes out and says he is gay. I asked my dad after my friend came out how did you know he was gay? He said you can tell you would be playing football and he would paint his nails with your sister. We would slap box he would be playing with dolls. Are you seriously telling me at 10 years old he made the decision to be gay?
And to back up my point even more read this link. FOXNews.com - Gay, Straight Men's Brain Responses Differ - Health News | Current Health News | Medical News
Homosexuality is a sin because the highest authority in the universe says it is.
Male and female were made for each other to continue the species.
For we human to deviate from that is unnatural; an act against nature.
In the long run that can only hurt as we have seen with other acts against nature.
History proves that homosexuals do hurt each other and themselves in quite a number of ways.
One of the main ways it that they are outcasts of general society even though they struggle to be accepted mainly they are not.
Yes some do accept them but most do not.
Note that several states have outlawed same sex marriage and others intend to do so.
In my state it was 3 to 1 against it.
In my case a job I had my supervisor was gay. We got along well with each other, but several people hated him and avoided him like he had a plague.
Homosexuality is repugnant to a great many people and always will be.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
I would not want to lie nor mislead someone. But neither should you. It is written in scripture. God is aware of the deception and those who follow it. When you see that Neverme has asked for a way in repenting, obviously it has come to heart that it is the questionable path in life. You should not want to further Neverme path by justifying it according to friends or others who have made the free will decision to walk as they have done.Quote:
Originally Posted by spitvenom
Take this up in prayer with Our Father and ask to do His Will. Repent and be baptized into newness of life. Fight satan's deception, suffer the flesh to stop sin.. God will not forake you or your desire to walk in the light.
Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
Proverbs 6: 17-19
1. A proud look, 2. a lying tongue, and 3. hands that shed innocent blood, 4.An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, 5. feet that be swift in running to mischief, 6. A false witness that speaketh lies, and 7.he that soweth discord among brethren.
When thou goest, it shall lead thee; when thou sleepest, it shall keep thee; and when thou awakest, it shall talk with thee.
Proverbs 6:23 For the commandment [is] a lamp; and the law [is] light; and reproofs of instruction [are] the way of life:
sndbay,
You post is a good one and should be taken to heart.
It is very sad that it has been rejected by one who is controlled by sin.
Fred
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