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  • Dec 2, 2008, 01:20 PM
    snapolillo
    How did the plumber detect the broken pipe
    I had a friend who's a "jack of all trades" come in the house but he can't seem to find a broken pipe. I have the same difficulty with these nasty flies. They are in the basement around the sump pump and the only way to contain in the basement them is with the fly strips and the blue light that you normally put outside to zap the bugs in the summertime. I have dead sewer flies all over the basement. It's gross because I have the washer and dryer in that same room. I'm sweeping them up all the time. They weren't here the first year, but then I noticed in the summertime flies in the kitchen and all over the house.
    Now, I have to keep the basement door closed, with the bug zapper on every single day.
    My friend could fix this problem for me at a low cost, if I could explain how the plumber found it. Do you think just any plumber could find a broken pipe?
    snapolillo
    I gues
  • Dec 2, 2008, 01:54 PM
    Stratmando

    A Novice plumber May find it, and an old Pro may not. Sometimes luck.
    It needs to be determined if it is the hot water, cold water, a broke drain, or an air conditioning condensing drain. A couple of Good Plumbers here will provide additional info.
    Good Luck
  • Dec 3, 2008, 06:13 AM
    massplumber2008
    Hey Snapolillo...

    Can you tell us what dumps into the sump pump pit? This is a sump pump... not a sewage ejector.. right?

    Any odors that you can detect?

    Let us know more...

    MARK
  • Dec 3, 2008, 07:40 AM
    Milo Dolezal

    Most likely, you don't have broken sewer pipe but you have open sewer situation.

    Do you have trap on your w/m set up? Do you have floor drains in the basement ? Sump pump ?
  • Dec 3, 2008, 07:46 AM
    speedball1
    Quote:

    have the same difficulty with these nasty flies. They are in the basement around the sump pump and the only way to contain in the basement them is with the fly strips and the blue light that you normally put outside to zap the bugs in the summertime. I have dead sewer flies all over the basement. It's gross because I have the washer and dryer in that same room. I'm sweeping them up all the time. They weren't here the first year, but then I noticed in the summertime flies in the kitchen and all over the house.
    Now, I have to keep the basement door closed, with the bug zapper on every single day.
    I had drain flies also, This may help.

    MOTH OR DRAIN FLIES

    Moth or drain flies are small black flies which
    Thrive in drain pipes and sewer lines. They need
    A lot of moisture to complete their life cycle.
    Drain flies do not fly well. They tend to drift
    And seem to float along more than fly. Their
    Wings are shaped like a leaf of a plant and one
    Can see hair like fibers on all parts of their
    Body which is why they are also called moth flies.
    I have dealt with drain fly infestations in
    Many homes which start in the sink or bathroom
    Shower. The drain lines which have the most
    Activity seem to be the ones most likely to have
    An infestation. I have also observed that homes
    With septic tanks seem most likely to get them.
    I am not sure if there is some kind of build up
    Which occurs more with this type of drainage
    Or if there is something in the tank which allows
    These flies to prosper. Although these homes
    Seem more likely to get drain flies, once the
    Cycle begins it takes place in the home. I have
    Encountered several infestations where the larva
    Were found crawling out of shower or bath tub
    Drains. The homeowners thought they were some
    Kind of leach. In fact, the larva of drain flies
    Thrive in a slime buildup which is on virtually
    Any drain pipe which is used a lot. This slime
    Enables the eggs which are laid to be protected
    And sheltered. The eggs and hatching larva
    Embed themselves in this slime so they don't wash
    Away. The cycle of these flies takes around
    A month to complete. Don't waste your time with
    Bleach or other cleaning solvents. Showers and tubs
    Which have ceramic tiles may also supply a moist
    Slimy environment in which they can live. Sump
    Pumps and wet crawl spaces are other environments
    Where I have seen them live. Drain flies can be harder
    To control than other small flies. Although
    There are several products to kill adults, the
    Key is maintaining and minimizing their breeding
    Areas. This could prove to be difficult and
    Ongoing.
    Like most flies, there are several products
    Available for their control. Use a "SPACE SPRAY"
    For immediate relief of the adults. There are
    Several to choose from in the section below.
    This will quickly control the adults, but the
    Secret to getting rid of them is to use a
    Product we sell which removes the slime build
    Up on drain pipes. By removing this slime, the
    Larva cannot develop. This will stop the cycle.
    In the "SURFACE SPRAY" section below, look for
    The product called SURVIVORS. This is applied
    Down drain pipes and will remove the nest sights
    These flies need. You may also use the product
    Called PT-CYKICK which is located in the same
    Section. It is ideal for treating in cracks and
    Crevices where these flies like to lay eggs. Such
    Cracks will develop around ceramic tile, windows
    And grout joints.

    Good luck, Tom

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