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  • Nov 27, 2008, 12:21 PM
    crue_boo
    TANF.How do I apply for welfare?
    HI
    I'm definitely going to need to go on welfare for the first year of my baby's presence. I was wondering how to do it as a new parent? I know I'm not going to be able to pay for all of the expenses I need, and I want to be able to raise my own child, and not go out and work while someone else raises my baby day-day. I looked up TANF, and it seems to only apply to those living in the states (as always) and I live in Canada. Please help :(... and PLEASE for goodness sakes... NO HATERS! I'm sick of people's ignorant comments when there is no need. If you have a complaint about my choice to go on welfare, please be nice :) thanks <3
  • Nov 27, 2008, 01:57 PM
    ScottGem

    Go to your local social services agency and ask.
  • Nov 27, 2008, 02:17 PM
    KBC

    Well,if you save the money you spend on your recreation(Cana-bis)Maybe the tax payers won't have to support you!

    At 17,I believe your too young for this responsibility and your other posts about drug use shows where your priorities are,sorry I am totally against the system supporting you,UNLESS you change for the safety and health of this baby to be!

    Look into the effects of drug use and child development.

    Even a little to 'Take the edge off' is too much while pregnant.

    Denial will jeopardize the child's mental health,and the child's physical well being.

    I feel sorry for your child,and for you.

    From one who knows the in's and outs of drug use.

    KBC
  • Nov 28, 2008, 06:57 AM
    crue_boo

    KBC I appreciate your concern but that really insults me. I don't think age has to do with the amount of responsibility one can have, it is the maturity; not all teenagers are cooked in the head! With all of the posts I've made involving the health of my baby, there should be a clear indication that I'm taking full responsibility. Smoking pot isn't addictive so I have no clue what makes you think that I'm going to risk my baby's health! The reason I need to go on welfare is because both mine and my boyfriend's families are not in the financial state to be able to support us and the child, as they are struggling to support themselves. I mean, we JUST got our hot water back after 3 months, because our beloved kitty was sick and cost us over $2000. Please don't misjudge because of my age and my activities, that is like judging someone because of their race without really knowing who they are. I believe having a child should give any teen motivation to stop using pot, alcohol, cigarettes, etc.
  • Nov 28, 2008, 06:59 AM
    crue_boo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ScottGem View Post
    Go to your local social services agency and ask.

    Thanks a bunch for your answer WITHOUT criticism :P.
  • Nov 28, 2008, 07:41 AM
    KBC
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by crue_boo View Post
    KBC i appreciate your concern but that really insults me. I don't think age has to do with the amount of responsibility one can have, it is the maturity; not all teenagers are cooked in the head! With all of the posts I've made involving the health of my baby, there should be a clear indication that I'm taking full responsibility. Smoking pot isn't addictive so I have no clue what makes you think that I'm going to risk my baby's health!? The reason I need to go on welfare is because both mine and my boyfriend's families are not in the financial state to be able to support us and the child, as they are struggling to support themselves. I mean, we JUST got our hot water back after 3 months, because our beloved kitty was sick and cost us over $2000. Please don't misjudge because of my age and my activities, that is like judging someone because of their race without really knowing who they are. I believe having a child should give any teen motivation to stop using pot, alcohol, cigarettes, etc.

    What is more important,the 'kitty' or the future life of a HUMAN being?

    Do you realize how many diapers,baby clothes,bottles,formula,doctor visits,car rides,baby strollers...etc....etc...etc you could have picked up for $2000??????


    And NO it is not clear that you are taking 'Full responsibility' for this pregnancy,you did ask how to receive public aid for this (see original post above^)

    You are already showing the exact irresponsible behavior I was describing,that which you claim you are,I see a totally irresponsible,immature,young person who can't see the priorities which are the cornerstone of making babies!

    Others financial responsibilities are not your concern,your families are not supposed to 'take care' of you,a responsible couple doesn't have children until they can afford children,it's called planning!

    Anyone can make a baby,not all can afford the responsibility and care required to keep the baby.

    Motivation to quit using...

    A responsible person quits BEFORE it becomes a pregnancy!

    Are you so delusional you can't see this,have you been living in a cave for the past 17 years?Teenage pregnancies are on the rise,single mothers have become the latest craze,most are a burden on society.Where is it stated that the system has to support this irresponsible behavior?Last I checked,it isn't a 'right' to be carried with this responsibility,you make your bed,now sleep in it,quit making the rest of us pay for your behavior,get a job,tell him to get a job,get your own insurance,pay your own way,stop this dependence on others for your welfare,be responsible for your own actions,teach you child to be a productive member of society,not a sponge on the system,but to support his/her own actions and needs.These are the lessons obviously missing in your life(s)

    I don't need to see you to judge you,your posts have done all the 'seeing' I need.

    Somehow you have failed to see the posts on marijuana use and child development(I can guess how you did this,you simply didn't accept it as the truth,its called DENIAL)

    What makes you think your child won't have any negative effects by this 'non-addictive' chemical you are putting in its bloodstream?

    I don't care if you want to smoke it,I care for the health of the innocent you are carrying,that is irresponsible behavior,it has NOTHING to do with age!

    I am going to ask some more responsible adults in this site to look into this post and you can see if I am being too hard on you,the parents who will hopefully post will be on their own,not influenced by me,except they will see what I wrote and will respond accordingly.

    KBC
  • Nov 28, 2008, 07:55 AM
    danielnoahsmommy

    Kbc, I wish I can add to your statements, but what good it will do. She is on her own planet, and we can only pray that she will see the light and change her ways, if not for her own sake but for that of her child
  • Nov 28, 2008, 08:02 AM
    NeedKarma
    Or she enjoys the attention.
  • Nov 28, 2008, 08:15 AM
    VeNN11

    Yes ma'am, baby's are expensive. Diapers are expensive, so are strollers, and clothes, and doctors bills, and cribs, blankets, shoes, formula, all the expensives that come with a baby, as well as CANABIS.

    And if you want to save a little money that will be much needed for this baby, I would recommend QUITTING the weed. That's so disgusting, selfish, and immature of you. You do not deserve to have people buy this stuff for you. Let me know how it goes paying for the medical bills from the harm you are doing to your baby goes. THAT, my friend, is what you should be worried about.
  • Nov 28, 2008, 08:34 AM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    What is more important,the 'kitty' or the future life of a HUMAN being?

    Do you realize how many diapers,baby clothes,bottles,formula,doctor visits,car rides,baby strollers...etc....etc...etc you could have picked up for $2000??????


    And NO it is not clear that you are taking 'Full responsibility' for this pregnancy,you did ask how to receive public aid for this (see original post above^)

    You are already showing the exact irresponsible behavior I was describing,that which you claim you are,I see a totally irresponsible,immature,young person who can't see the priorities which are the cornerstone of making babies!

    Others financial responsibilities are not your concern,your families are not supposed to 'take care' of you,a responsible couple doesn't have children until they can afford children,it's called planning!

    Anyone can make a baby,not all can afford the responsibility and care required to keep the baby.

    Motivation to quit using....

    A responsible person quits BEFORE it becomes a pregnancy!

    Are you so delusional you can't see this,have you been living in a cave for the past 17 years?Teenage pregnancies are on the rise,single mothers have become the latest craze,most are a burden on society.Where is it stated that the system has to support this irresponsible behavior?Last I checked,it isn't a 'right' to be carried with this responsibility,you make your bed,now sleep in it,quit making the rest of us pay for your behavior,get a job,tell him to get a job,get your own insurance,pay your own way,stop this dependence on others for your welfare,be responsible for your own actions,teach you child to be a productive member of society,not a sponge on the system,but to support his/her own actions and needs.These are the lessons obviously missing in your life(s)

    I don't need to see you to judge you,your posts have done all the 'seeing' I need.

    Somehow you have failed to see the posts on marijuana use and child development(I can guess how you did this,you simply didn't accept it as the truth,its called DENIAL)

    What makes you think your child won't have any negative effects by this 'non-addictive' chemical you are putting in its bloodstream?

    I don't care if you want to smoke it,I care for the health of the innocent you are carrying,that is irresponsible behavior,it has NOTHING to do with age!

    I am going to ask some more responsible adults in this site to look into this post and you can see if I am being too hard on you,the parents who will hopefully post will be on their own,not influenced by me,except they will see what I wrote and will respond accordingly.

    KBC

    I have to spread the love Ken!! I can't add another word to what you said other than the fact that this "mature" 17 year old expects us to monitarily raise her child.

    It just sickens me when teens use this approach to raising a child. It's people like this who make the elderly, who really need the Welfare system embarrassed to use it when they are the ones who deserve it.
  • Nov 28, 2008, 04:02 PM
    crue_boo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    What is more important,the 'kitty' or the future life of a HUMAN being?

    Do you realize how many diapers,baby clothes,bottles,formula,doctor visits,car rides,baby strollers...etc....etc...etc you could have picked up for $2000??????


    And NO it is not clear that you are taking 'Full responsibility' for this pregnancy,you did ask how to receive public aid for this (see original post above^)

    You are already showing the exact irresponsible behavior I was describing,that which you claim you are,I see a totally irresponsible,immature,young person who can't see the priorities which are the cornerstone of making babies!

    Others financial responsibilities are not your concern,your families are not supposed to 'take care' of you,a responsible couple doesn't have children until they can afford children,it's called planning!

    Anyone can make a baby,not all can afford the responsibility and care required to keep the baby.

    Motivation to quit using....

    A responsible person quits BEFORE it becomes a pregnancy!

    Are you so delusional you can't see this,have you been living in a cave for the past 17 years?Teenage pregnancies are on the rise,single mothers have become the latest craze,most are a burden on society.Where is it stated that the system has to support this irresponsible behavior?Last I checked,it isn't a 'right' to be carried with this responsibility,you make your bed,now sleep in it,quit making the rest of us pay for your behavior,get a job,tell him to get a job,get your own insurance,pay your own way,stop this dependence on others for your welfare,be responsible for your own actions,teach you child to be a productive member of society,not a sponge on the system,but to support his/her own actions and needs.These are the lessons obviously missing in your life(s)

    I don't need to see you to judge you,your posts have done all the 'seeing' I need.

    Somehow you have failed to see the posts on marijuana use and child development(I can guess how you did this,you simply didn't accept it as the truth,its called DENIAL)

    What makes you think your child won't have any negative effects by this 'non-addictive' chemical you are putting in its bloodstream?

    I don't care if you want to smoke it,I care for the health of the innocent you are carrying,that is irresponsible behavior,it has NOTHING to do with age!

    I am going to ask some more responsible adults in this site to look into this post and you can see if I am being too hard on you,the parents who will hopefully post will be on their own,not influenced by me,except they will see what I wrote and will respond accordingly.

    KBC



    Wow talk about narrow minded.. lol I think you misunderstood about EVERYTHING I said in my post!! Obviously you're not perfect either if you fail to have the ability to see both sides of a story before instantly making a conclusion. So because of your inability, I have to explain things more thoroughly than I should. *sigh*

    Okay, first of all smart , my cat got sick WAY before I ever knew I was pregnant so that little comment can go out the window. And by the way I'd do anything for my cat but I wouldn't risk the future of a child.

    Second of all smart , (I can't believe I have to explain this) when I said full responsibility, that means to do whatever it takes. If I can't make enough money to pay for all of the baby's needs, plus all of the medication I need, did you want me to just let it be? That doesn't seem at all ethical. :confused:

    Third of all smart , I didn't say that our parents were paying for everything did I? No.. silly. I said that their support (when needed) won't be available. So I can't even run to them when I'm really in a rut.

    Fourth of all, I know that having a condom break after 3 years of a relationship, and me getting pregnant, sounds irresponsible. I know, its considered wrong. WELL SH** that's the past. I'm sorry I didn't expect this baby. You can't tell me you saved the sex until marriage! Since it's the past, I can still act responsibly from now on right? Yes.

    Fifth of all, again, I didn't know I was pregnant or becoming pregnant. I didn't even get morning sickness. I'm SORRY that I didn't get to quit until I knew I was pregnant, which was unfortunately a little later on in the process. It was a mistake, and I learned, so why criticize me now? :confused:

    Sixth of all, he has a job, and I can get a job too. There's a little thing called low ty pay. I live in a town called Angus; there's HARDLY any job opportunities, and for the jobs there are, it's pay. I have a very good reputation in this small town compared to all the other teens, I'm a Christian girl who volunteers and helps the elderly... and I even have to wait a good 2 months before I get a call back, due to the low amount of job placements. It's hard enough to even make enough money to save up for a car (adding to my medication costs) to get a job outside of this town. I'm stuck. I can't even borrow money from my family to get a car to work outside this town because they're poor too. NOT EVERYONE IS WEALTHY and some people like you fail to see the whole world as it is. You can sit there and make a young girl cry and not give a... that's so low. I'm ashamed to call you a fellow person.

    Seventh of all, I haven't missed out on those lessons because I've had to work for every gosh damn thing I own since I was old enough to work. My parents are wonderful clean people,but just can't afford to buy me the things everyone else in your wealthy neighborhoods got.

    Eighth of all, I did see the post on how marijuana affects the baby. You are an effing knob that's for sure. You spent so much effort trying to make me feel bad, when the whole time you read my sentence completely wrong. I said something like... "i know that pot isn't addictive, so why would you think I'd risk my child's health?".. or something along those lines. I can accept how you misunderstood that... but man... it's not that hard to see it the other way. I'm asking in other words "Since pot is not addictive it should be easy to quit...why wouldn't i quit? Why would you think i would smoke weed and risk my child's health IF I CAN QUIT." is that more clear for your "more mature" selves!? Jeeeeze! Pat yourself on the back why don't you? :cool:

    Wow, almost reached 10. Congratulations, you're a sure winner! You know, I'm a really nice person, a young well liked girl, who has a loving relationship with her boyfriend, who accidentally got pregnant but is overjoyed with excitement, who is looking into ways to make my baby's life happy every single day. And oh , I happen to use the work "" and "", and I smoke weed. So what I'm a hippie. I hope that you're proud of yourself for TRYING to crush the hopes of a young girl trying her hardest to make things right. You are such a good soul!
  • Nov 28, 2008, 04:08 PM
    J_9
    This thread is now closed due to the OPs abusive language to the members who answered her questions.

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