First let me apologize to everybody that reads in this forum. I got on a rant yesterday (Friday). I let someone push one of my hot buttons and I let it get out of control. In five pages of questions there are at least six questions concerning porn. That should give anybody pause to learn about porn as an addiction. Many people do not want to believe that pron can be an addiction. That is their right. However with so many sexual based questions and many many of them center around or are connected to internet porn one has to wonder? People will say that porn must not be addictive because people, mainly men do not admit to being addicted. When the simple fact is that men have a very hard time admitting to an addiction, porn in particular.
Again I apologize to those that have read my online debates with others here about addictions and I promist to try and do better in the future.
450donn

I didn't see what you are referring to, donn, but I admire your courage to apologize for what you consider your improper comments, comments that are rants.

Best wishes, :)

Mary Sue

That was really big of you. I don't know what rant you're referring to, but I think it happens to the best of us, especially regarding arguments and issues that we feel passionately about in the first place.

Frankly, as long as those arguments don't get to the level of being deeply personal and derogatory, and as long as what the person is saying has something to do with the subject at hand, I don't see anything wrong with a good rant.

After all, this is a place where I come to learn as least as much as I come to share my own opinions or give advice.

I don't agree with the idea that all porn or porn related experiences are addictive, but I do understand the grave repercussions true porn addiction (or any addiction for that matter) can cause. Just the same, I think that there is too much porn floating around the internet, and I do agree that too much porn, especially when in falls into the hands of younger generations, can cause some major social repercussions.

Personally, I don't enjoy pornography, at least as I think it is generally done. I think it's really cheap. However, when someone is steadfastly against all porn at all levels, I usually assume that it's for one of two reasons: first, for religious beliefs, and second, because they have been directly affected by someone whose own porn addictions made their life hell. As far as the second reason goes, I can understand the intense emotions involved in something like that, but, as I see it, just because one person had a predisposition to addictive behaviors, which happened to develop through pornography, it doesn't mean that any porn is bad for everybody.

I think inward fantasies and using one's imagination are much healthier foils for self stimulation. Then again, I am a woman, and women do have different ways of getting aroused than men do. Of course, I would not feel good if my partner relied heavily on pornography in order to get aroused. Actually, he's the only man I've ever known who doesn't look at, watch, own, rent or buy any pornography at all. It's just not his thing.

Anyway, I admire the sense of your apology (even though I wasn't involved in the conversation and therefore can't know the specifics that made you feel that one was necessary), but I do think a well thought out and informative rant can be a good thing. I know that I would appreciate learning more about your exact opinions and why you feel the way you do.

Guess we all should say we are sorry then, since all of us have our days, or get tired of some of the questions.
I would really worry if you did ot lose it sometimes

I agree with everyone here, it is very big of you to say sorry, and we all have our days.

450donn-

As I mentioned to you before, I'm quite guilty of letting a post that I think is just junk steer me into a diatribe of noise. Guilty as charged. Just ask choux. We've gone around and around from time to time. It happens.

Best I can say is stand your ground until it starts to detract from the OP'ers post... then take it to PM's.

People of conviction don't need to always agree.

I stepped in on that post mostly to give you both a natural break from the noise... let you walk away from each other with me as an excuse.

Thanks for the post. Be willing to state what you think, to take a little flack for it, and to eventually walk away from the noise.

Yes, donn, kp and I have dust ups every so often, but I don't let that interfere with my warm feelings for him. He's a great guy, and I appreciate him.

450 Donn, I don't know what post you are talking about, but I have to say that it takes a lot of courage to apologize.

Like others have said, we all have our moments, days when we just don't back down from a fight and things get out of hand. Heck, we're human, it happens.

If I apologized every time I lost my temper then this site would be filled with nothing but threads of me apologizing. ;)