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  • Oct 20, 2008, 06:45 PM
    Galveston1
    The two bodies of Christ
    Christ has two bodies. He presented the first one, born of the virgin Mary, as the perfect and complete sacrifice for the sins of mankind. That body was then resurrected and went back to the Father in Heaven.

    But what about His second body? He does have one.

    1 Cor 12:27
    27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
    (KJV)

    What Christ did while ministering here in His first body, He can, and will do through His second body, the Church. (Let's not get denominational here. That doesn't count for anything at all.)

    John 14:12
    12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
    (KJV)

    Mark 16:17-18
    17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
    18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
    (KJV)
  • Oct 20, 2008, 09:13 PM
    Choux

    What is your question?
  • Oct 21, 2008, 04:34 PM
    Galveston1

    This is a discussion board, is it not? So discuss, already.
  • Oct 22, 2008, 02:00 AM
    Capuchin
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Galveston1 View Post
    Christ has two bodies. He presented the first one, born of the virgin Mary, as the perfect and complete sacrifice for the sins of mankind. That body was then resurrected and went back to the Father in Heaven.

    But what about His second body? He does have one.

    1 Cor 12:27
    27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
    (KJV)

    What Christ did while ministering here in His first body, He can, and will do through His second body, the Church. (Let's not get denominational here. That doesn't count for anything at all.)

    John 14:12
    12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
    (KJV)

    Mark 16:17-18
    17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
    18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
    (KJV)

    Cool. But I'm not very good at reading between the lines. What is his second body?
  • Oct 22, 2008, 04:05 PM
    Galveston1

    Jesus' second body is the Church. Not a denomination, but a body of born-again believers who may come from any Christian organization.
    My main point deals with what that body of believers is to do in this world.
  • Oct 22, 2008, 08:51 PM
    cogs

    Yes, that body is one body. And I believe it's one mind, that of god's. The 'greater things' which they do, I think, is jesus working his will and power through our bodies.
  • Oct 14, 2009, 09:38 PM
    Maggie 3
    1Cor 12:12 " For as the body is one and has many members, but all the members
    of one body, being many, are one body, so also is Christ. 13, For by one Spirit we
    were all baptied into one body--whether Jew or greeks, whether slaves or free--
    and have all been made to drink into one Spirt."

    We all become one body, and one spirit, if we are a child of God.
    As a child of God we all have gifts and the Lord wants us to use them.
    My husband has lad hands on the sick and God healed them. We also
    Speak with new tongues.

    Maggie 3
  • Oct 17, 2009, 02:47 PM
    galveston
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maggie 3 View Post
    1Cor 12:12 " For as the body is one and has many members, but all the members
    of one body, being many, are one body, so also is Christ. 13, For by one Spirit we
    were all baptied into one body--whether Jew or greeks, whether slaves or free--
    and have all been made to drink into one Spirt."

    We all become one body, and one spirit, if we are a child of God.
    As a child of God we all have gifts and the Lord wants us to use them.
    My husband has lad hands on the sick and God healed them. We also
    speak with new tongues.

    Maggie 3

    Thanks for the testimony.

    Exactly what I hope to emphasize.
  • Oct 17, 2009, 03:17 PM
    sndbay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Galveston1 View Post
    Christ has two bodies. He presented the first one, born of the virgin Mary, as the perfect and complete sacrifice for the sins of mankind. That body was then resurrected and went back to the Father in Heaven.

    But what about His second body? He does have one.


    (KJV)

    1 John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, [even] Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

    The Spirit is truth correct?

    John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me

    The Spirit of truth comes from the Father right?


    We understand that we all are born of water and blood correct? So if Christ was born of water, and blood like us here on earth... Was He not begotten of God and instead born as Seth was from Adam? OR was Christ begotten of the Spirit of truth and born of water /HOLY SPIRIT and Blood/Man to walk as Emmanuel


    1 John 5:7
    For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are ONE.

    1 John 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in ONE.
  • Oct 17, 2009, 03:35 PM
    sndbay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Galveston1 View Post
    Jesus' second body is the Church. Not a denomination, but a body of born-again believers who may come from any Christian organization.
    My main point deals with what that body of believers is to do in this world.

    The church is a many membered body that equals the fellowship that each converted believer is by being in Christ.

    1 Corinthians 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.


    1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

    That is shown in Acts when the Spirit of the LORD caught away from Philip after the eunuch came up out of the water in baptism.

    Acts 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

    The church are those followers who are sanctified in Christ Jesus
  • Oct 17, 2009, 04:12 PM
    sndbay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Galveston1 View Post
    My main point deals with what that body of believers is to do in this world.

    Every follower sanctified in Christ

    Eph 4:7-8 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.Wherefore He saith, When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.

    Christ gift measures went to:

    Eph 4:11 And He gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers


    For The Perfect Faith in us, and the ministry (that is us as servants serving in Christ )

    Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ.

    ( in us begotten again in Christ unto a new man Col3:10)

    1 Peter 1:3 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead

    Until we have unity with perfect faith, and perfect men of fulness of Christ

    Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

    The Rock, Christ Jesus

    (Eph 4:14 thr 24) goes on to say until no more doctrines thrown around this way and that. But rather teaching the truth in love, and grow up into Christ in all things, which is the head, even Christ.


    Put on Christ who is the Rock , Walk in the Perfect Faith


    Eph 4:16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.


    (Eph 4:26 thr 31)
    goes on to say neither give place to the devil.
    But rather again Walk with Christ, in Perfect Faith

    Eph 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
  • Oct 20, 2009, 09:50 AM
    chronix719

    The second body is not the church, for the church is corrupt, the bible has been changed so many time, the vatican passion to dominate the world and control everyone is a sad situation...

    People can quote any and anything to reflect their point, I used to be a salesperson, I could take your words and put it into whatever context and make it relate, my point now. Stop quoting a book... its useless, especially since the leaders can change the meaning of things as they see fit...

    Instead look at with on open mind, open means not limiting to one denomination. Trying to figure out the first body and the second body? You don't know mary was a virgin, you weren't there, and you don't know jesus dies on the cross, you weren't there. First mary was with paul, read up and you'll see that picture while reading, and a body does not go to heaven, the soul does, the body is alive while the soul is in it, so if the body is not there, the soul was still alive... look at thing open minded and you'll see a complete different side of things... I love the christian fate, but to many negative things to follow it without question...

    What is the first body, the one you have, what is the second body, the after life, think about it.

    What does the devine want from us, but not to be at peace, happy, and cherish his name. What is the leading cause of war from man time, religion... think outside the box, and the faith you were born into will answer the first and second body
  • Oct 20, 2009, 12:11 PM
    sndbay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chronix719 View Post
    the second body is not the church,

    I trust we are members of the Christian church.. AND as scripture has been referenced to say, we are the body of Christ, as we are the many members in which Christ dwells within. Those that are born of the spirit are begotten again in Christ.

    1 Corinthinas 6:19 What? Know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

    1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

    1 Peter 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.



    1 Peter 1:3-5 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
  • Oct 20, 2009, 12:21 PM
    sndbay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chronix719 View Post
    stop quoting a book... its useless, especially since the leaders can change the meaning of things as they see fit...

    That depends whether you believe God reveals truth. Whether the spirit resides in you, and who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation

    Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
  • Oct 20, 2009, 12:30 PM
    sndbay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chronix719 View Post
    What is the leading cause of war from man time,

    You're off the thread with many of your questions. If you have an answer, then give it.. Otherwise please show respect to God and the spirit of truth.

    The leading cause of war is evilness .. corruption.. not following the God of righteousness.

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