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  • Oct 13, 2008, 09:26 AM
    ABxter10
    Wall Drain and sink trap
    I replace my original sink with a new sink that is much deeper. The problem that I have is that the wall drain is now higher than the sink trap approximately 2.5". Is there a trick of the trade to fix this or do I need to lower the wall drain completely that is in the wall? I hope not as this will be some major work. Please let me know.

    Thank you
  • Oct 13, 2008, 09:33 AM
    letmetellu

    There is only one possible thing that you might do and that is to turn the J part of the trap so that the short part of the J connects to the sink when you install it this will give you a couple of inches. It is not the proper way to do it but it may work.
  • Oct 13, 2008, 09:40 AM
    ABxter10
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by letmetellu View Post
    There is only one possible thing that you might do and that is to turn the J part of the trap so that the short part of the J connects to the sink when you install it this will give you a couple of inches. It is not the proper way to do it but it may work.

    Since you said it is not the proper way the best thing I guess would be to lower the wall drain down about 3". Do you agree
  • Oct 13, 2008, 04:01 PM
    ballengerb1

    If you are 3" off now that trick won't help you any. Changing the location of the horizontal drain is best but it could be a lot of work. A lot depends on what the drain pipe does once it enters the wall. If it goes left or righ you need to ripe out the pipe and wall all the way to the first vertical drop. If the drain goes into the wall and turns down you can cut the pipe and slice in a Tee. What are your pipes, PVC or cast?
  • Oct 13, 2008, 04:42 PM
    massplumber2008
    Abxter10...

    Answer the most important question here... what material are the pipes/fittings made of?

    We will figure something out if we can... :)

    Thanks... MARK
  • Oct 13, 2008, 11:34 PM
    ABxter10
    The Drain Pipe is PVC. It appears to be vertical so I am guessing to cut the pipe enough and add the coupler so my finished dimension will be 3" lower than orginal. The actual distance of the drain and trap is now approximately 2.5". Yes I agree it is going to be a lot of work times two because of two sinks.

    Do you agree on lowering the wall drain or another suggestion?

    Thank you

    Alan
  • Oct 14, 2008, 03:45 AM
    massplumber2008
    Hi Allen:

    Since it is pvc then it will be easy to try to pipe it up without cutting into the wall... if it doesn't work you can always cut it out and cut into the wall... by the way, it should work ;)

    Just make your own trap out of 90s... this will be a deep trap 90 and should work just fine for you. Be sure to include a full size cleanout somewhere between wall and trap if possible.

    The waste pipe going into the wall cannot be higher than the sink bottom... if it is then you are cutting into the wall... otherwise build your own ptrap as mentioned above... should get you up and draining!

    Let us know what you think!

    MARK
  • Oct 14, 2008, 04:35 AM
    Milo Dolezal

    Do you have a clean out plug below the drain inlet? If positive, than you could possibly connect sink drain into clean out and plug the drain inlet and call it clean out.
  • Oct 14, 2008, 06:45 AM
    speedball1
    Milo, not every body is living under UPS code and has a clean out on every vertical piece of pipe.

    Allen,
    Quote:

    The Drain Pipe is PVC. It appears to be vertical
    Do you nhave a "s" trap,(see image) installed? If so you have a sinple solution to your problem. You said it with,
    Quote:

    "I am guessing to cut the pipe enough and add the coupler so my finished dimension will be 3" lower than original. The actual distance of the drain and trap is now approximately 2.5"."
    Or lower if you wish. If you indeed have "S" traps and not "P" traps as indicated in your first post,
    Quote:

    do I need to lower the wall drain
    Then you have solved your problem. So let me know exactly what you have. Regards, Tom

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