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  • Oct 11, 2008, 04:46 AM
    jrwild62
    Working on Sunday
    The commandment says, In so many words, Don't work on Sunday. Does anyone obey this rule?? That is the question. If you gather fire wood, mow your lawn, punch in at work, or do anything that involves motion to accomplish something, you simply are condemed by God, and he will send you to hell for trillions upon trillions of years to suffer unspeakable pain and torment. I say NOT FAIR! Those poor NFL players, they entertain us on Sundays with their heroics,, and 66,000 people in the stands watch as these players sin by working on Sunday. I wonder if it's a sin to watch sinning going on, and by a ticket for it.?

    If I didn't stump you on this one, I give up. To the observers of this question, watch the clever wording that takes place in God's defense. It's all smoke and mirrors.

    Bottom line,, If you work on SUNDAY, YOU go to hell! PERIOD.

    Christians,, please reply. I can't wait...
  • Oct 11, 2008, 06:02 AM
    Tj3

    Some people think that this is a rule by looking at Old Testament law regarding the Sabbath (which is Saturday not Sunday). There is not now nor never has been any rule imposed for Sunday. Indeed scripture tells us that the Sabbath was given to the Jews for their benefit.

    Mark 2:23-28
    23 Now it happened that He went through the grainfields on the Sabbath; and as they went His disciples began to pluck the heads of grain. 24 And the Pharisees said to Him, "Look, why do they do what is not lawful on the Sabbath?" 25 But He said to them, "Have you never read what David did when he was in need and hungry, he and those with him: 26 how he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and ate the showbread, which is not lawful to eat, except for the priests, and also gave some to those who were with him?" 27 And He said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. 28 Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath."
    NKJV


    A day or so of rest to recover from a week of hard work is a good thing for man to recharge his batteries so to speak - don't you agree? I personally don't know of anyone who would not want a weekend for rest. But even this passage shows that God Himself never expected people to stop doing everything even on the Sabbath.

    The Sabbath is a day of rest and the Sabbath in Jewish law given by God was given to them as a prophecy and sign of the coming of man's true Sabbath rest, Jesus (there is more about Jesus being our Sabbath rest in Hebrews 4). Because Jesus has fulfilled this prophecy, we are no longer required to observe the Sabbaths:

    Col 2:16-17
    16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.
    NKJV


    So bottom line - no such rule has been imposed by God for Christians, and working on Sunday does not send you to hell.
  • Oct 11, 2008, 06:07 AM
    jrwild62
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tj3 View Post
    That is not a rule. Indeed scripture tells us that the Sabbath (which is Saturday, not Sunday) was given to the Jews for their benefit.

    Mark 2:23-28
    23 Now it happened that He went through the grainfields on the Sabbath; and as they went His disciples began to pluck the heads of grain. 24 And the Pharisees said to Him, "Look, why do they do what is not lawful on the Sabbath?" 25 But He said to them, "Have you never read what David did when he was in need and hungry, he and those with him: 26 how he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and ate the showbread, which is not lawful to eat, except for the priests, and also gave some to those who were with him?" 27 And He said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. 28 Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath."
    NKJV

    The Sabbath is a day of rest and the Sabbath in Jewish l;aw given by God was given to them as a prophecy and sign of the coming of man's true Sabbath rest, Jesus. Because Jesus has fulfilled this prophecy, we are no longer required to observe the Sabbaths:

    Col 2:16-17
    16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.
    NKJV

    But it remains that a day of rest to recover from a week of hard work remains a good thing for man to recharge his batteries sop to speak - don't you agree?

    So bottom line - no such rule exists.

    Did you read the 10 commandments? Thou shalt not work on the Sabbath. Clever wording, but it dose not justify the RULE.
  • Oct 11, 2008, 06:08 AM
    jrwild62
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jrwild62 View Post
    Did you read the 10 commandments? Thou shalt not work on the Sabbath. Clever wording, but it dose not justify the RULE.

    Any reply tj3?
  • Oct 11, 2008, 06:21 AM
    Tj3
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jrwild62 View Post
    Did you read the 10 commandments? Thou shalt not work on the Sabbath. Clever wording, but it dose not justify the RULE.

    I already answered that from scripture. But if you need additional clarification - do you know what the purpose of the Old Testament law was?

    Gal 3:19-25
    19 What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator does not mediate for one only, but God is one. 21 Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law. 22 But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
    NKJV


    Once again, scripture is clear that the law was propetic of the coming of Christ, but those who are saved are no longer under the law. Indeed no one kept the law (Romans 3:23) and if you fail in one part of the law, keeping the rest does not help.

    James 2:9-11
    10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.
    NKJV
  • Oct 11, 2008, 06:24 AM
    jrwild62
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tj3 View Post
    I already answered that from scripture. But if you need additional clarification - do you know what the purpose of the Old Testament law was?

    Gal 3:19-25
    19 What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator does not mediate for one only, but God is one. 21 Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law. 22 But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
    NKJV


    Once again, scripture is clear that the law was propetic of the coming of Christ, but those who are saved are no longer under the law. Indeed no one kept the law (Romans 3:23) and if you fail in one part of the law, keeping the rest does not help.

    James 2:9-11
    10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.
    NKJV


    Clever words,, but you forget,, THOU SHALT NOT WORK ON SUNDAY. There is no subtext. A rule is a rule!!
  • Oct 11, 2008, 06:26 AM
    Tj3
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jrwild62 View Post
    Clever words,,, but you forget,,, THOU SHALT NOT WORK ON SUNDAY. There is no subtext.

    There is no such law - if you believe that there is, give me the reference!

    To help you, you can search the Bible, any version at http://blb.org.
  • Oct 11, 2008, 06:31 AM
    jrwild62
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tj3 View Post
    There is no such law - if you believe that there is, give me the reference!

    I believe it is thou shall keep the Sabbah holy. In other words, Don't WORK ON SUNDAY. TJ3? Do you know the 10 commandments? Without looking them up online,, name them. You can not do it. No one can. In memory, I challenge anyone to list the 10 commandments. You can't do it.
  • Oct 11, 2008, 06:33 AM
    Tj3
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jrwild62 View Post
    I believe it is thou shall keep the Sabbah holy. In other words, DONT WORK ON SUNDAY.

    Now I think that you are just being argumentative and don't want an answer.

    First and most basically - the Sabbath is not Sunday. This was pointed out to you before.

    And I have addressed every one of your points. You have yet to respond to any of them. If you have no response and just want to argue by repeating the same line over and over with no interest in a real answer, then I am wasting my time.
  • Oct 11, 2008, 06:35 AM
    jrwild62
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tj3 View Post
    Now I think that you are just being argumentative and don't want an answer.

    First and most basically - the Sabbath is not Sunday. This was pointed out to you before.

    And I have addressed each and every one of your points. You have yet to respond to any of them. If you have no response and just want to argue by repeating the same line over and over with no interest in a real answer, then I am wasting my time.

    To the best of my limited knowledge, The commandent says that you should not work on Sunday. Is that wrong? If that is incorrect, maybe its OK to kill also
  • Oct 11, 2008, 06:36 AM
    Tj3
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jrwild62 View Post
    To the best of my limited knowlege, The commandent says that you should not work on Sunday. Is that wrong?

    That is wrong.
  • Oct 11, 2008, 06:39 AM
    jrwild62
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tj3 View Post
    That is wrong.

    So what day should we not work on? "Thats just wrong", does nothing for the debate. You just ran away from it. An actual answer would be nice.
  • Oct 11, 2008, 06:39 AM
    Fr_Chuck

    Op has no idea what the bible says, and is not accepting obvious good advice.

    The bible does not say do not work on Sunday. And the bible just says to keep the Sabbath holy, nothing more, nothing less.

    Obviously the OP does not want to really discuss this just cause argue

    Thread closed

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