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  • Sep 24, 2008, 09:24 AM
    byiki
    Finding a meaning for bible passage (luke 4 verses 18-19)
    I have to find out the meaning of the bible passage Luke 4 verses 18-19 this is it


    “The Lord's Spirit has come to me, because he has chosen me to tell the good news to the poor. The Lord has sent me to announce freedom for prisoners, to give sight to the blind, to free everyone who suffers, and to say, 'This is the year the Lord has chosen.'

    Can u please help me thanks byiki :)
  • Sep 24, 2008, 11:29 AM
    arcura
    byiki,
    I believe the meaning is clear when it is read in context.
    This is from the New Jerusalem Bible
    Luke 4:Jesus begins to preach

    14. Jesus, with the power of the Spirit in him, returned to Galilee; and his reputation spread throughout the countryside.
    15. He taught in their synagogues and everyone glorified him.

    Jesus at Nazareth

    16. He came to Nazara, where he had been brought up, and went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day as he usually did. He stood up to read,
    17. And they handed him the scroll of the prophet Isaiah. Unrolling the scroll he found the place where it is written:

    18. The spirit of the Lord is on me,
    For he has anointed me
    To bring the good news to the afflicted.
    He has sent me to proclaim liberty to captives,
    Sight to the blind,
    To let the oppressed go free,
    19. To proclaim a year of favour from the Lord.

    20. He then rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the assistant and sat down. And all eyes in the synagogue were fixed on him.
    21. Then he began to speak to them, "This text is being fulfilled today even while you are listening."
    22. And he won the approval of all, and they were astonished by the gracious words that came from his lips.
    They said, "This is Joseph's son, surely?"
    23. But he replied, "No doubt you will quote me the saying, `Physician, heal yourself,' and tell me, `We have heard all that happened in Capernaum, do the same here in your own country.' "
    24. And he went on, "In truth I tell you, no prophet is ever accepted in his own country.
    25. `There were many widows in Israel, I can assure you, in Elijah's day, when heaven remained shut for three years and six months and a great famine raged throughout the land,
    26. but Elijah was not sent to any one of these: he was sent to a widow at Zarephath, a town in Sidonia.
    27. And in the prophet Elisha's time there were many suffering from virulent skin-diseases in Israel, but none of these was cured, only Naaman the Syrian."
    28. When they heard this everyone in the synagogue was enraged.
    29. They sprang to their feet and hustled him out of the town; and they took him up to the brow of the hill their town was built on, intending to throw him off the cliff,
    30. But he passed straight through the crowd and walked away.
    Jesus was announcing what He intended to do.
    Jesus was also telling them how He would be treated.
    Note that the people immediately began to treat Him badly.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred (arcura)
  • Sep 24, 2008, 12:26 PM
    Choux

    Thanks for posting the entire passage, Fred. What an interesting bit of scripture.

    Jesus declared himself in a formal manner using Isiah's scripture in temple... to be the hope and savior of the poor(most of the people) and other downtrodden members of Jewish society.

    Most seem to forget that Jesus was about helping the poor and downtrodden in this life. Making a Kingdom of Heaven on Earth.

    I don't consider anyone a Christian unless they have the same spirit Jesus had for helping others. That is real Christianity. :)
  • Sep 24, 2008, 03:14 PM
    arcura
    Choux,
    Thanks for your opinion on that.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
  • Sep 25, 2008, 03:49 PM
    Galveston1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Choux View Post
    Thanks for posting the entire passage, Fred. What an interesting bit of scripture.

    I don't consider anyone a Christian unless they have the same spirit Jesus had for helping others. That is real Christianity. :)

    I COMPLETELY agree with you on this point.
  • Sep 25, 2008, 06:46 PM
    arcura
    Galveston1,
    I also agree with Choux on that.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
  • Sep 26, 2008, 02:24 AM
    Moparbyfar
    Hi Byiki. This is my reply to someone who had a question about the same scripture some months back, mainly vs 19.

    The 'accepable year' (as read in my bible) is the Greek translation for Hebrew 'year of goodwill' which Jesus was reading/quoting from the scroll of Isaiah 61:1-3.
    This is telling of a time when certain ones would be looked favorably upon by God and be anointed as Jesus himself was when he got baptized.
    The sign that they knew they'd been accepted by God was the pouring out of the Holy Spirit on 120 of them at Pentecost 33 C.E. (Act 2:1-4) :)
  • Sep 26, 2008, 07:37 AM
    byiki

    Thanks all for your help :)
  • Sep 26, 2008, 07:45 AM
    byiki
    Oh yeah does one know how to use the meaning of the bible passage in all day things ?
    So to bother thanks byiki
  • Sep 26, 2008, 10:31 AM
    arcura
    Moparbyfar,
    Thanks for your explanation.
    Fred
  • Sep 26, 2008, 10:50 AM
    wildandblue

    The Book of Malachi, which is the last one in the Old Testament has the passage Mal. Chapter three: Suddenly the Lord whom you seek will come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant in whom you delight is here, here already, says the Lord of Hosts.
    So to use it in everyday life, would be to place our faith in Jesus
  • Sep 26, 2008, 11:21 AM
    arcura
    wildandblue ,
    Yes
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
  • Sep 26, 2008, 11:21 AM
    ordinaryguy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Choux View Post
    Thanks for posting the entire passage, Fred. What an interesting bit of scripture.

    Jesus declared himself in a formal manner using Isiah's scripture in temple... to be the hope and savior of the poor(most of the people) and other downtrodden members of Jewish society.

    Most seem to forget that Jesus was about helping the poor and downtrodden in this life. Making a Kingdom of Heaven on Earth.

    I don't consider anyone a Christian unless they have the same spirit Jesus had for helping others. That is real Christianity. :)

    I heartily agree that it's an interesting bit of scripture. To me, the most interesting thing about it is how quick the mood changed from:
    Quote:

    22. And he won the approval of all, and they were astonished by the gracious words that came from his lips.
    to:
    Quote:

    28. When they heard this everyone in the synagogue was enraged.
    29. They sprang to their feet and hustled him out of the town; and they took him up to the brow of the hill their town was built on, intending to throw him off the cliff
    If you look at what it was that set them off, it was clearly his point that God's favor and blessings were not confined to "Israel" alone, but extended to "Sidonians and Syrians" as well. He was striking at the very root of their identity as "God's chosen people", and it pissed them off big time. Proclaiming the universality of the Father's love, and therefore the spiritual equality of EVERY person, irrespective of national, racial, cultural or tribal identity, is a central theme of his entire ministry. I don't think it's an overstatement to say that it was his repeated insistence that the Father considered and accepted ALL people equally as His children, that eventually got him crucified. Everybody wants to be special, and telling them that they're not is no way to curry favor.

    Quote:

    Now the preacher looked so baffled
    When I asked him why he dressed
    With twenty pounds of headlines
    Stapled to his chest.
    But he cursed me when I proved it to him,
    Then I whispered, "Not even you can hide.
    You see, you're just like me,
    I hope you're satisfied."

    --Bob Dylan
  • Sep 26, 2008, 01:35 PM
    Galveston1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by byiki View Post
    oh yeah does one know how to use the meaning of the bible passage in all day things ?
    so to bother thanks byiki

    To answer your question here, yes. The same Holy Spirit that anointed Jesus and filled the believers on that day of Pentecost, will do the same thing for believers today if they will seek Him in humble sincerety.
  • Sep 26, 2008, 03:21 PM
    Credendovidis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Choux View Post
    I don't consider anyone a Christian unless they have the same spirit Jesus had for helping others. That is real Christianity.

    If true for all, there can't be many real Christians around...

    :rolleyes:

    .
  • Sep 26, 2008, 07:12 PM
    arcura
    Cred,
    I think that there are more real Christians than you think there are.
    I know many more who help others than those who do not.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred.
  • Sep 27, 2008, 08:14 AM
    Galveston1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Credendovidis View Post
    If true for all, there can't be many real Christians around ....

    :rolleyes:

    .

    How many schools, hospitals, orphanages, or other charitable works are Atheists responsible for?? What percentage of their incomes do Atheists contribute to charitable organizations? Many Christians give 10% of their incomes to such things.
  • Sep 27, 2008, 12:26 PM
    arcura
    Galveston1
    Very Good response to cred.
    There are millions of Christians who donate to the things you mentioned plus donate funds to victims of disasters or physically help in many different ways.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
  • Sep 27, 2008, 08:10 PM
    Credendovidis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Galveston1 View Post
    How many schools, hospitals, orphanages, or other charitable works are Atheists responsible for??? What percentage of their incomes do Atheists contribute to charitable organizations? Many Christians give 10% of their incomes to such things.

    Just a quick reaction .

    I can only speak for myself here, Galveston.
    Personally I am involved in many unpaid volunteer activities in schools, hospitals, orphanages, or other charitable works.
    Part of my personal wealth is used to pay for development projects in Africa, where I lived for near 30 years, and where I used part of my time to educate youngster with basic ABC and learned them the skills to become capable to earn a living.

    To me it is irrelevant how much a person spends on charitable works.
    It is the intention that surrounds the worldview of every person that really counts.
    As you are a US American (at least I think you are) :

    Your extremely capitalistic system "lives" at the expense of the most weak, the most needed in the world. Locally and worldwide.
    Your system is at the basis of a lot of profound misery for billions of human beings worldwide.
    Jesus tought socialism (note : not communism).

    I see only very few real socialists in the US...

    :)

    .
  • Sep 27, 2008, 10:09 PM
    arcura
    Cred,
    That about American id just plain fooy.
    Fred

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