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I have noticed than in translation the Red Sea was mentioned and later found out it was the Reed Sea.These miss translated words make a big difference.What is to say that people haven't changed the bible to hide the truth.Even God knew people would try to change it or he would have never stated it at the end of the Bible.
Many people try and say the Bible contradicts itself.
I think it is more like our limited comprehension and maybe some translation problems but as a whole I don't see contradictions. Look at how all the countries that have changed their names from 50 years ago so maybe an e was dropped from the name.
I never saw it written as the reed sea before though.
Reed and red are nothing alike in Hebrew. Anyway, what is the practical difference in a depth of 6 feet and 100 feet if your nose is only 5 feet above the bottom?
You are reading and sadly believing too many of the myth teachings that try at times to disprove the bible.
The people who do not believe that God has power wants to find man made ways things could have happened.
They try and show it was not the true Red Sea that Moses crossed but he crossed further up stream in a area of Reeds.
The difference is if you wish to believe that God has all power and can do miricles or if you believe that they new were all the stones were to walk across the shallow areas in a swamp area.
Of course the horsemen chasing would not have drown in the swamp??
So in general what you have are the same type of people who believe in the novel books like the Divinci Code and other stories made to destroy the truths of the bible.
With all respect for Christianity : the Bible is anything BUT accurate ! It is full of mistakes, inaccuracies, contradictions, "corrections", mistranslations, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by CHRISTOPHEROBIN
Isn't it strange that a deity - who is claimed to be the "creator" of the entire universe with everything in it in only 6 days - needed human beings to write his Christian manual for humanity ? The Bible is claimed to be God's word , but it seems more that it was written by many different wellwilling human beings who were claimed to be guided by God.
You can only BELIEVE that the Bible is what Christians say it is.
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Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
Only looking for the truth in a world of lies.If Satin in tempting the children of God then there is always a possibility for the truth to be covered up.Satin tries to separate Gods children from God.What better way then to steer them in the wrong direction.
But there you have the problem : what is "the truth" and what are "the lies"?Quote:
Originally Posted by CHRISTOPHEROBIN
There does not seem to be one "truth", or "truth" at all.
What you mean with "truth" is YOUR perception of what you BELIEVE, without any Objective Supporting Evidence for that.
The topic is : "Is the bible accurate?".
Reality is that it is not. The bible is full of mistakes, inaccuracies, contradictions, "corrections", mistranslations, etc.
Lets continue on that, and leave "Satin" out of it. That's an entire different topic.
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I agree with your statement.How can you honestly trust man who has sinned from the beginning. Remember, this is satans playground and he misleads many.Translators even agree that certain gospels are missing parts.I believe these people made up endings for some gospels were there was none to be found because they were destroyed to hide the truth.I also find it hard to trust mans sayings when there is only one true God and so many denominations of churches.Jesus taught Judaism, now there seems to be everything but that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Credendovidis
Most people are roman Catholics, wasn't Jesus tortured and killed by the hands of the romans?Quote:
Originally Posted by CHRISTOPHEROBIN
I do not think the bible is true, I am an atheist and there is no proof whatsoever that the bible is accurate.
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Originally Posted by CHRISTOPHEROBIN
"roman Catholics" and "the romans"
I assume you did not go to school but received private tutoring at home from family...
Roman Catholic is a Christian denomination, unrelated to the roman empire.
"the romans" were the "world" rulers for many hundreds of years, including the period -50 to +50 AD.
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Indeed! However : anyone is free to believe whatever they like! As long as they do not claim or suggest that whatever they believe is "true", because that has to be proved first (OSE).Quote:
Originally Posted by Apologisenow
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Originally Posted by Credendovidis
I never said they were'nt, this user has asked if the bible is accurate and I have given my opinion.
Correct. I did not suggest that you did. I added that in view of the general intolerance here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apologisenow
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That's good, it is just that you quoted me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Credendovidis
For Chris' benefit. The rest of you don't have to look if you don't want to.
PROPHECY PROOF OF BIBLE
Prophecy Fulfillment Prophecy Fulfillment
1. Gen 3:15 (virgin birth) Mat 1:20 2. Isa 11:1 (descendent of Jesse) Mt 1:1-16
3. Micah 5:2 (place of birth) Lu 2:15,16 4.. Jer 31:15 (Herod's attempt) Mt 2:16
5. Isa 42:1 (ministry area) Mt 4:13-15 6. Zech 9:9 (grand entry) Lu 19:30-35
7. Ps 41:9 (Judas' betrayal) John 13:18 8. Zech 11:12 (betrayal price) Mt 26:15
9. Zech 11:13 (money for field) Mt 27:9,10 10. Gen 3:15 (“heel” bruised) John 19:18
11. Isa 53:3 (Jesus rejected) John 1:11 12. Ps 2:2 (council against Jesus) Mk 15:1 13. Zech 13:7 (arrest, deserted) Mk 14:27,50 14. Isa 53:8 (unfair trial) Mk 15:1-25
15. Ps 35:11 (perjured witnesses) Mk 14:56 16. Isa 53:5,6,10 (our penalty) Rom 5:6,8
17. Ps 69:19 (Jesus mocked) Mt. 27:28,29 18. Isa 50:6 (beaten, spit on) Mt. 26:67
19. Isa 53:7 (no defense offered) Mt 26:62,63 & Mt 27: 13,14
20. Isa 53:12 (with transgressors) Mk 15:27,28
21. Ps 22:16 (hands, feet pierced) Jn 19:18 22. Ps 22:1 (cry to Father) Mt 26:46
23. Ps 38:11 (friends view) Lu 23:49 24. Ps. 22:18 (gambling, clothes) Mt 27:35
25. Ps 22:6,7,8 (reproached) Mt 27:39-44 26. Ps. 69:21 (gall, vinegar) Mt 27:34
27. 109:25 (enemies shake heads) Mt 27:29 28. Ps 22:17 (watch Him die) Mt 27:36
29. Ps 31:5 (He yields spirit) Lu 23:46 30. Zech 12:10 (side pierced) Jn 19:34
31. Ex 12:46, Ps 34:20 (no bones broken) John 19:32,33,36
32. Amos 8:9 (sun darkened) Mt 27:45 33. Isa 53:9 (rich man's tomb) Mt 27:57-60
All above prophecies are from the Old Testament
Additionally, Jesus made some prophecies about Himself.
Mt 20:18,19 Eight separate details
1. I will be betrayed at Jerusalem.
2. I will be betrayed to the chief priests and scribes.
3. The priests and scribes will condemn me to death.
4. The priests and scribes will deliver me to the Romans. (gentiles)
5. The Romans will mock me.
6. The Romans will scourge me.
7. The Romans will crucify me.
8. I will rise from the dead on the third day.
The 33 details from the Old Testament plus the 8 details that Jesus gave in the New Testament make a total of 41 definite events perfectly fulfilled.
First no there is actually no such church called "Roman Catholic" there is a catholic church, and its current main office is in Rome. One of their major RITES is the Roman rite which shows what rules of orders and services they are to use There are several other rites in place.
The Bible is inerrant. But if you have evidence of an error in the Bible, please show us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Credendovidis
Where did you get the impression He needed anyone to write the Bible? Please give me the evidence of God's NEED.Quote:
Isn't it strange that a deity - who is claimed to be the "creator" of the entire universe with everything in it in only 6 days - needed human beings to write his Christian manual for humanity ?
The Bible has been examined more than ANY OTHER BOOK ever written for at least 2000 years. And it is proven inerrant to this day.Quote:
The Bible is claimed to be God's word , but it seems more that it was written by many different wellwilling human beings who were claimed to be guided by God.
You can only BELIEVE that the Bible is what Christians say it is.
So lets see your evidence.
Sincerely,
De Maria
The Bible has been examined more than any other book in history and is proven inerrant.Quote:
Originally Posted by CHRISTOPHEROBIN
Sincerely,
De Maria
I did here on this board. Several times already. Up to 150 different examples out of a total of several hundreds. I showed all kinds of mistakes, of incorrectness, of wrong statements, of inconsistences, and of contradictions. It is clear and beyond any doubt that the Bible is full of - specially - contradictions.Quote:
Originally Posted by De Maria
The evidence is in the Bible itself. A true perfect being that can create an entire universe in 6 days only would not need 60+ different imperfect human beings to write, hundreds of imperfect human beings to select which are the "real" bible books (various synodes), and millions of imperfect human beings to translate and re-translate, print, and distribute bibles.Quote:
Originally Posted by De Maria
Where can any OSE be found on that inerrancy ? Or is that only what you BELIEVE ?Quote:
Originally Posted by De Maria
So lets see YOUR evidence.
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