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  • Aug 25, 2008, 02:50 PM
    N0help4u
    Here's change maybe?
    Obama, when asked what his faults are said something like he does not help the poor enough and with his typical twist of wording the question off himself onto the nation he proceeded to say how we as a nation ARE guilty of this...


    Latest find in Italy's Vanity fair

    Obama's half brother found living in hut in Africa and lives on $12.00 a YEAR

    Barack Obama's 'lost' brother found in Kenya - Telegraph
  • Aug 25, 2008, 05:33 PM
    BABRAM
    There are numerous email chains floating around cyberspace with Barack Obama pictured visiting his family in Kenya. He's obviously aware of some his family and enjoyed the visits, but like you I don't know the circumstance. My guess is that at some point, if the facts are verifiable to Barack, then he'll help as he can. Please don't take this the wrong way, but would helping a person in their need be the Christian thing to do? Although I'm not a Christian, I think so. Personally I spend my money on local charities (occasionally international), but I readily admit that I specifically have not willfully sent a dime to anybody in Kenya. The story is that Barack's long lost half-brother was found in impoversed Kenya. Does it bother you that Cindy McCain's half sister lives right in the good ole USA, and yet John and Cindy knowingly acted if she didn't exist?

    Digg - Cindy McCain's Half Sister 'Angry' She's Hidden

    "Cindy McCain's Half Sister 'Angry' She's Hiddennpr.org — Although Cindy McCain has publicly said she's an only child, she has a half sister. Kathleen Hensley Portalski and her son, Nicholas, say they're hurt that they've never been recognized — and that they didn't receive any part of Jim Hensley's estate."
  • Aug 25, 2008, 05:43 PM
    George_1950
    So we should be looking into Michelle's family? Or simply hold Obama to the standard he sets for everone else?
  • Aug 25, 2008, 05:56 PM
    BABRAM
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by George_1950
    So we should be looking into Michelle's family? Or simply hold Obama to the standard he sets for everone else?

    George-

    If I was picking a debate team you would not make the short list. Michelle is an American of slave ancestry. Do you really want to go there?
  • Aug 25, 2008, 06:32 PM
    George_1950
    Slavery ended 143 years ago.
  • Aug 25, 2008, 06:43 PM
    BABRAM
    Congrats you figured it out. Michelle Obama's an American of African descent. Does she have a half sister in Africa that you'd like to attack?
  • Aug 25, 2008, 06:57 PM
    George_1950
    What is that Obama quote? "We are the ones we've been waiting for." That's what he says, but this is what he does: "No one knew for sure, but Obama, showing that his pitch for “change” was more than a mantra, would make a bold and decisive choice. He would prove, by his decision, that he was daring and courageous, he was a visionary of post-ideological politics! Obama thought through all of his options and gave his supporters…Joe Biden! Yes, Senator Obama confronted his first momentous decision and settled upon Senator Joe Biden, the consummate Washington insider, as his Vice-Presidential running mate." Go figure. Brian Birdnow :: Townhall.com :: Joe Biden…"The Change We Have Been Waiting For”?
  • Aug 25, 2008, 07:05 PM
    BABRAM
    George, now you're on a tangent about Joe Biden. Nothing personal, but you're becoming more discombopulated in this post.
  • Aug 25, 2008, 07:13 PM
    George_1950
    Just more 'change' for our chameleon candidate: "I am not sure whether Senator Barack Obama made the best political move in choosing Senator Joe Biden as his vice-president. Hillary Clinton would have probably helped more; and, perhaps, the bland Evan Bayh, too, in the battleground Midwest. And choosing Biden will force Obama to retool his political message of anti-Washington outsider and will make it more difficult to attack John McCain's judgement for supporting the Iraq War, since Biden did as well. And, finally, I am not sure whether a white working class Catholic in Cleveland's Eastern exurbs will be more likely to vote for Obama because he picked Biden, a pro-choice Catholic, as his VP. So, all in all, I reserve judgment about the sheer electoral value of this pick." Biden: A Reassuring Pick - The Plank
    More back-filling from the chosen one; you know, his rhetoric is one thing but his actions are something else.
  • Aug 25, 2008, 07:36 PM
    BABRAM
    Wow! You'll just post any nonsense. Obama and Biden by far are in less agreement with Bush on numerous issues. And that's a good thing! McCain is closer to "W" (Dubya), than X, Y, & Z.

    John McCain Revealed : McCain And Bush

    "McCAIN & BUSH: IS THERE REALLY A DIFFERENCE?

    Sen. John McCain has long promoted the idea that he is a “straight-talking maverick” who challenges his party and stands up to his president. However, despite the media misrepresentation, McCain has not strayed too far from President George Bush's line, especially on issues important to working families. McCain is not running for a term of his own; he is running on an extension of the agenda laid out by Bush in his first two terms: tax cuts for the rich, privatizing Social Security and outsourcing jobs.

    McCAIN VOTES WITH BUSH

    McCain Voted with the Bush Administration 89 Percent of the Time. Since President Bush took office, McCain has supported Bush's positions 89 percent of the time. McCain's support of Bush's policies reached as high as 95 percent in 2007. [Congressional Quarterly Voting Study, 110th Congress]

    SHARES BUSH'S ROSY VIEW OF THE ECONOMY

    Bush: Economy Is Inherently Strong. “I believe we can find common ground to get something done that's big enough, effective enough so that an economy that is inherently strong gets a boost to make sure that this uncertainty doesn't translate into more economic woes for our workers and small business people,” Bush said in the Cabinet Room. [Associated Press, 1/23/08]

    Use link to see video where McCain claimes: Underpinnings of Economy are Strong. “I still believe our fundamental underpinnings of our economy are strong, but it's obvious that we are facing challenges which will require actions such as the Federal Reserve took today.” [“Lou Dobbs Tonight,” CNN, 1/22/08] *McCain Says Economy Is Strong (use link to see Video).
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  • Aug 26, 2008, 04:56 PM
    Galveston1
    McCain votes with Bush. This is a bad thing? And what about those huge increases in unfunded entitlements? The Dems gave us Medicare, the seniors were strong armed into giving up their private policies in favor of Medicare. Medicare is many times the financial problem tha Social Security is. The Repb's gave us drug coverage, which is more debt than SS. But wait, I seem to remember the Dem opposition the drug plan that the Bush adm. Pushed was that it didn't go far enough! The Dems wanted to spend about twice as much! Most of us seniors didn't want the program to start with.
  • Aug 26, 2008, 05:51 PM
    BABRAM
    Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Seniors

    Protect Social Security

    Obama is committed to ensuring Social Security is solvent and viable for the American people, now and in the future. Obama will be honest with the American people about the long-term solvency of Social Security and the ways we can address the shortfall. He will work with members of Congress from both parties to strengthen Social Security and prevent privatization while protecting middle class families from tax increases or benefit cuts. As part of a bipartisan plan that would be phased in over many years, he would ask those making over $250,000 to contribute a bit more to Social Security to keep it sound.

    Despite the many smears of his opponents, Obama does not support uncapping the full payroll tax of 12.4 percent rate. Instead, he is considering plans that would ask those making over $250,000 to pay in the range of 2 to 4 percent more in total (combined employer and employee). This change to Social Security would start a decade or more from now and is similar to the rate increases floated by John McCain's close adviser Senator Lindsey Graham and that McCain has previously said he “could” support.


    Strengthen Retirement Savings

    Reform Corporate Bankruptcy Laws to Protect Workers and Retirees: Current bankruptcy laws protect banks before workers. Obama will protect pensions by putting promises to workers higher on the list of debts that companies cannot shed; ensuring that the bankruptcy courts do not demand more sacrifice from workers than executives; telling companies that they cannot issue executive bonuses while cutting worker pensions; increasing the amount of unpaid wages and benefits workers can claim in court; and limiting the circumstances under which retiree benefits can be reduced.
    Require Full Disclosure of Company Pension Investments: Obama will ensure that all employees who have company pensions receive detailed annual disclosures about their pension fund's investments. This will provide retirees important resources to make their pension fund more secure.

    Eliminate Income Taxes for Seniors Making Less Than $50,000: Obama will eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year. This will provide an immediate tax cut averaging $1,400 to 7 million seniors and relieve millions from the burden of filing tax returns.

    Create Automatic Workplace Pensions: Obama's retirement security plan will automatically enroll workers in a workplace pension plan. Under his plan, employers who do not currently offer a retirement plan, will be required to enroll their employees in a direct-deposit IRA account that is compatible to existing direct-deposit payroll systems. Employees may opt-out if they choose. Experts estimate that this program will increase the savings participation rate for low and middle-income workers from its current 15 percent level to around 80 percent.

    Expand Retirement Savings Incentives for Working Families: Obama will ensure savings incentives are fair to all workers by creating a generous savings match for low and middle-income Americans. His plan will match 50 percent of the first $1,000 of savings for families that earn less than $75,000. The savings match will be automatically deposited into designated personal accounts. Over 80 percent of these savings incentives will go to new savers.

    Prevent Age Discrimination: Obama will fight job discrimination for aging employees by strengthening the Age Discrimination in Employment Act and empowering the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission to prevent all forms of discrimination.


    Affordable Health Care

    Provide Cheaper Prescription Drugs: Our seniors pay the highest prices in the world for brand-name drugs. To lower drug costs, Obama will allow the federal government to negotiate for lower drug prices for the Medicare program, just as it does to lower prices for our veterans. He also supports allowing seniors to import safe prescription drugs from overseas, and will prevent pharmaceutical companies from blocking cheap and safe generic drugs from the market.

    Protect and Strengthen Medicare: Obama is committed to the long-term strength of the Medicare program. He will reduce waste in the Medicare system, including eliminating subsidies to the private insurance Medicare Advantage program, and tackle fundamental health care reform to improve the quality and efficiency of our healthcare system. Obama supports closing the "doughnut hole" in the Medicare Part D prescription drug program.
    Provide Transparency to Medicare Prescription Drug Plans: Many seniors are enrolled in Medicare prescription drug plans that are actually more expensive for them than other available plans. Obama will require companies to send Medicare beneficiaries a full list of the drugs and fees they paid the previous year to help seniors determine which plans can better reduce their out-of-pocket costs and improve their health.

    Strengthen Long-Term Care Options: As president, Obama will work to give seniors choices about their care, consistent with their needs, and not biased towards institutional care. He will work to reform the financing of long term care to protect seniors and families. He will work to improve the quality of elder care, including by training more nurses and health care workers.
    Protect and Honor Seniors

    Ensure Heating Assistance: Obama will increase funding for the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP) which helps low-income citizens — many of them seniors — pay their winter heating and summer cooling bills.

    Support Senior Volunteer Efforts: Retired Americans have a wide range of skills and knowledge to contribute to local and national public service efforts. Obama will engage more interested seniors into public service opportunities by expanding and improving programs like Senior Corps to connect seniors with quality volunteer opportunities.


    Barack Obama's Record

    Social Security and Pensions: In the midst of the 2005 debate over Social Security privatization, Obama gave a major speech at the National Press Club forcefully arguing against privatization. He also repeatedly voted against Republican amendments that aimed to privatize Social Security or cut benefits. Obama has also voted to force companies to properly fund their pension plans so taxpayers don't end up footing the bill.
    Medicare: Obama has supported a number efforts to strengthen Medicare, including voting for legislation to allow Medicare to negotiate for cheaper prescription drug prices and to extend the enrollment period for low-income beneficiaries.

    Protecting Seniors: After reports that lobbyists, but not the American people, received information about the most unsafe nursing homes in the country, Barack Obama demanded the Department of Health and Human Services release that information to the public. Following Obama's letter, the names of the four Iowa care facilities cited for unsafe care were released to the public. Obama's efforts follow his successful efforts in Illinois to make nursing home information public and strengthen elder abuse laws.



    The link below has additional information and comparisons of the candidates, both pro and con:

    Prescription Drugs - Obama vs McCain on Prescription Drugs
  • Aug 26, 2008, 05:52 PM
    inthebox
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BABRAM
    There are numerous email chains floating around cyberspace with Barack Obama pictured visiting his family in Kenya. He's obviously aware of some his family and enjoyed the visits, but like you I don't know the circumstance. My guess is that at some point, if the facts are verifiable to Barack, then he'll help as he can. Please don't take this the wrong way, but would helping a person in their need be the Christian thing to do? Although I'm not a Christian, I think so. Personally I spend my money on local charities (occasionally international), but I readily admit that I specifically have not willfully sent a dime to anybody in Kenya. The story is that Barack's long lost half-brother was found in impoversed Kenya. Does it bother you that Cindy McCain's half sister lives right in the good ole USA, and yet John and Cindy knowingly acted if she didn't exist?

    Digg - Cindy McCain's Half Sister 'Angry' She's Hidden

    "Cindy McCain's Half Sister 'Angry' She's Hiddennpr.org — Although Cindy McCain has publicly said she's an only child, she has a half sister. Kathleen Hensley Portalski and her son, Nicholas, say they're hurt that they've never been recognized — and that they didn't receive any part of Jim Hensley's estate."


    Cindy's half sister is not living in poverty is she?

    Now, you are correct, we don't know the situation between Obama and his half brother.

    For example, my wife and I paid for substance rehab for a family member only to have them sign themselves out and continue in their habit. There is only so much you can do at times unfortunantly. :(
  • Aug 26, 2008, 06:08 PM
    BABRAM
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by inthebox
    Cindy's half sister is not living in poverty is she?

    Now, you are correct, we don't know the situation between Obama and his half brother.

    For example, my wife and I paid for substance rehab for a family member only to have them sign themselves out and continue in their habit. There is only so much you can do at times unfortunantly. :(



    Compared to the McCain's? Hell "yes" she's living in poverty. Do you know how many houses John and Cindy McCain own?. John didn't. The half sister is upset that she's been hidden during this campaign, not lost, lives right in good ole America, and missed out on the pot of gold that her sister Cindy obviously accumulated via inheritance.

    You were doing good, a mitzvah, to help the family member. Regardless of the outcome, your efforts are commendable.
  • Aug 28, 2008, 06:48 PM
    Galveston1
    Dear Lord, Bobby! I don't want to copy that loooong list of Barak's things to do. With all the red ink already piled up by generations of free spenders, HOW is he going to pay for all of it after he adds a tanker car more of the stuff?

    I hereby make a prediction. The USA will find itself in the same shape that the USSR got into financially, which caused them to pretty much go back to square one. When I was there, after the break up, Russia was a third world country everywhere I saw.

    It is imperative that we find some way to shrink government, and soon if we are to remain a first class world power. McCain may not have the answer, but Obama SURE DOESN'T have the answer.

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