Ask Me Help Desk - McDonald's is killing us

Is anyone else concerned about the quality of mcdonalds food?
Every wonder why its so cheap?

Cows are meant to be rumage animals (strictly grass/bush/weed fed animals), fast food industries force cattle to grow faster by feeding them strictly high protein pellets. Yes the cows grow faster, but it is horribly mean to the cow because of the acidity level that builds up in the stomach and causes some to die from the inside out. Also the meat is mostly fat. Its mean to the cow and horribly unhealthy for you.
These companies that raise the cattle have the room for a cattle to graze but they don't let them. They use the land to grow corn and grain that is harvested ground up and put into pellets that are fed to the cattle. The cattle are kept in small unsanitary mud pens which usually builds up in the hoof and causes a bad case of hoof-rot that caused the cattle to go lame. These cattle are then dragged into the butcher by chains.

Are you still going to eat at mcdonalds?

Mcdonalds is Cheap, Where are they cheap? They are more expensive then ever.

It is cheaper to eat out at a fancy restaurant then eating at mcdonalds with a family.

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Originally Posted by Jesushelper76

Mcdonalds is Cheap, Where are they cheap? They are more expensive then ever.

It is cheaper to eat out at a fancy resteraunt then eating at mcdonalds with a family.

The dollar menu?
At what reteraurant can you get a 99 cent burger. A good burger is upwards of 4.99 at mot restaurants.

Plus the cost of grain is going up, so it's more expensive to feed the cows. Grass doesn't cost anything

What is really sad is that McDonald employees eat there for free. On minimum wage they aren't going to go out to eat or pack a lunch. "Can I help you" is getting more slurred, the floor more sticky and covered with napkins and if you have ever worked in a place like that you WOULD NOT eat the food as a customer, ever.

Eat at home, grow the food yourself. That's both cheaper and safer.

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Originally Posted by farmgal

Is anyone else concerned about the quality of mcdonalds food?
every wonder why its so cheap?

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are you still going to eat at mcdonalds?

First, looking at the title of this post "McDonald's is killing us", I'd prefer that it read: "People who make poor nutrition choices are killing themselves."

Second: Am I concerned about the quality of McDonalds food? Now, when I think of quality food, I don't think of McDonalds. I am *very* concerned about people who are under or malnurished. I am also concerened about people who are uneducated about food and nutrition.

Third: Am I still going to eat at McDonalds? Yes... because not everything on the menu is a burger, soda, or fries.

Take care.

Hi farmgal... whilst I understand all that you are saying I can also see that fast food outlets are extremely profit making businesses which will always be there as long as people go in and buy their product... burgers etc..

Many years ago I used to work on a farm collecting eggs, the chickens were 4 to a 1 ft sguare cage, couldn't turn around and their necks were raw from putting them through the wire to eat the grain ( I think ) that was provided for their survival... until they were slaughtered.The hen houses were enormous over 100% heat and you were up to your ankles in muck, at the bottom there were rats running around at will, it was disgusting to put it mildly, people still bought the eggs and of course the chicken, it made a cheap meal.

These days hopefully that wouldn't be acceptable, these birds could have been kept more humanly to deliver their produce to us, even though their out come remained the same.
The point I'm making is the world revolves around money, not always quality.

Every where you look in the u.k there are fast food outlets for every kind of food you fancy, one of the most popular being... Kentucky Fried Chicken or Miss Millies, Mc Donalds is also their.These places stay open all hours in a bid to raise their revenue and of course it does.People coming out of clubs etc... late at night.. the first place they make for is a fast food outlet, they are not thinking about health issues just I need some food.

What increases the problem is constant advertising on TV, they also deliver as well making it much easier .
Perhaps if they showed an alternative advert, on precisely how the product was made, right from the care of the animals concerned, it would be a counterbalance to any advert promoting their goods.

It could start by saying... EAT HEALTHY... ( picture of burger crossed out )

UNLESS YOU WANT TO BE A PASSENGER IN ONE OF THESE... ( picture Hearse )

Maybe a bit extreme but it might make people think...

My Opinion only...

The only thing I buy at McDonald's is coffee... gotta say it's GOOD!

Those good salads are full of preservatives too. Some very good points here.

My point is that having worked around food, nutrition departments and restaurants for about 30 years, eating out can be risky if you're worried about what you're eating. How the animal was treated or what the produce is treated with are viable questions. How the food is handled from delivery to service at a restaurant, OMG!

Even if you only drink the coffee or the milkshake, there is a chance of spit, boogers, urine, ejaculate and at the least, some arm hairs in it. Totally gross, but true. I don't care, eat anywhere, anyway. But if you care, eat at home.

Safest fast food restaurant?

In my opinion Inn N Out is probably the best best for healthy fast food.

McDonalds, Burger King, Jack In The Box, Wendy's etc. are ridiculous...
the food is nasty =/~ As a vegetarian, I paid $1.62 for a regular smoothie (vanilla sherbert & flavored juice mixed) and it's so simple to make. For burgers, I used to eat without the meat (asked not to put it in) and it cost the same price.

Actually does not most of the "cheap" meat come from south america and is imported? But then food animals are just that food, a product, raised to be killed to produce our food.

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actually does not most of the "cheap" meat come from south america and is imported ?? but then food animals are just that food, a product, raised to be killed to produce our food.

I don't think so... it would take more money to import food to US than make it's own meat.

Mc Donalds isn't killing us.

Our own choices in what we eat and how we live are.

The so called "meat" is mostly fillers and not real meat... OK maybe 30% real meat, but the rest is soy products. Nice, huh? And we think it's a hamburger with meat in it, NO. Plus the oil the fries are cooked in is pure soybean. Soybeans are not really for human consumption in these forms. Soybeans are essentially cattle and hog feed. Soybeans make a human literally gain weight, just like the cattle and hogs when they are fed soybeans rapidly gain weight. Also, don't forget the hidden MSG contained within the food that makes you crave more and more fast food. That's why you are hungry again after a short period regardless of how much you've stuffed yourself with one of their meals. MSG can also make you gain weight. And don't forget the wonderful diet sodas which is nothing more than aspartame which is an insecticide used in foreign countries around the world for insect control. One of the by products in human consumption is eating more (yes, eating more) diet anyting. They have a vicious cycle going on there with fast food of any company. KFC, Wendys, Burger King, Arby's, etc. etc.

The fast food pizza companies are just as bad also. I don't know of any fast food pizza chain that does not have soy products or use the soy flour and the MSG in their food. Some pizzas I used to eat actually gave me a horrible stomach ache and make me sleepy. That's the MSG at work. Unless I make the pizza myself I don't eat it.

The movie Supersize Me is a great advertisement as to what fast food can do to ruin your health. Spurlock was a healthy person when he started his month long journey into eating Micky D's. When he finished out his 30 days he was a wreck physically.

I have not eaten fast food in so many years I can't remember when. It's more like a good 10 years now. I happily make my own meals at home and pack a lunch.

America has so many overweight obese people due to their eating habits of fast food. They are unfortunately hooked on the MSG and soybeans. It's not really their fault and they probably have no idea what they are consuming and that this poisonous food is really damaging their health in a horrible way. They are shortening their life drastically by eating fast food - not just Micky D's but EVERY fast food joint with NO exceptions. Sorry.

Yeah the burgers are fillers and soy. Some people say soy is causing boys to have too much female hormones. Also try taking a McDonald food and leaving it sit for a year. It doesn't get moldy the same way good fresh food should. Junk food doesn't because it has so many preservatives.
Check these

YouTube - the after taste of mcdonalds

YouTube - TWINKIE vs. TORCH

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Originally Posted by N0help4u

Yeah the burgers are fillers and soy. Some people say soy is causing boys to have too much female hormones. Also try taking a McDonald food and leaving it sit for a year. It doesn't get moldy the same way good fresh food should. Junk food doesn't because it has so many preservatives.
Check these

YouTube - the after taste of mcdonalds

YouTube - TWINKIE vs. TORCH

Guess that explains them gays! :P Just messing, but I could definitely imagine someone coming up with that!

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The so called "meat" is mostly fillers and not real meat.... ok maybe 30% real meat, but the rest is soy products. Nice, huh? And we think it's a hamburger with meat in it, NO. Plus the oil the fries are cooked in is pure soybean. Soybeans are not really for human consumption in these forms. Soybeans are essentially cattle and hog feed. Soybeans make a human literally gain weight, just like the cattle and hogs when they are fed soybeans rapidly gain weight. Also, don't forget the hidden MSG contained within the food that makes you crave more and more fast food. That's why you are hungry again after a short period of time regardless of how much you've stuffed yourself with one of their meals. MSG can also make you gain weight. And don't forget the wonderful diet sodas which is nothing more than aspartame which is an insecticide used in foreign countries around the world for insect control. One of the by products in human consumption is eating more (yes, eating more) diet anyting. They have a vicious cycle going on there with fast food of any company. KFC, Wendys, Burger King, Arby's, etc. etc.

The fast food pizza companies are just as bad also. I don't know of any fast food pizza chain that does not have soy products or use the soy flour and the MSG in their food. Some pizzas I used to eat actually gave me a horrible stomach ache and make me sleepy. That's the MSG at work. Unless I make the pizza myself I don't eat it.

The movie Supersize Me is a great advertisement as to what fast food can do to ruin your health. Spurlock was a healthy person when he started his month long journey into eating Micky D's. When he finished out his 30 days he was a wreck physically.

I have not eaten fast food in so many years I can't remember when. It's more like a good 10 years now. I happily make my own meals at home and pack a lunch.

America has so many overweight obese people due to their eating habits of fast food. They are unfortunately hooked on the MSG and soybeans. It's not really their fault and they probably have no idea what they are consuming and that this poisonous food is really damaging their health in a horrible way. They are shortening their life drastically by eating fast food - not just Micky D's but EVERY fast food joint with NO exceptions. Sorry.

I think you'll find aspartame a dangerous artificial chemical that breaks down into Formaldehyde (the stuff they use for embalming dead bodies!) and also wood alcohol,) it's a sugar free poison!

And also not the mention the Trans fat in our foods,particulalry McD's being one of them.

I haven't eaten a meal there for nearly 2 years! I eat very little fast food, best decision ever!

Burger King offers veggie burgers and vegetarian alternatives. Does In N Out burger? I don't think so.

Just go a block and what do you see, another fast food restaurant. It's no wonder America is Fat and Dying. Our diets are killing us. Even our friends and family that are eating a heart healthy diet are not safe. The heart healthy diet just kills you slower. If we all want to live a long and healthy life lets change froom a so called heart healthy diet to the real thing, a plant based diet. No meat,fish,dairy or oil. Nothing that can clog up the arteries. Let's put the fast food industry out of business. There profits are made at the cost of our health.

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Originally Posted by farmgal

Is anyone else concerned about the quality of mcdonalds food?

I would be if I was eating there.

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Every wonder why its so cheap?

I haven't really, but I now know: it's more about economies of scale than anything. People love efficiency and food that they don't have to make themselves, and the more they want a certain type of food (such as fast food from fast-food chains like McDonald's), the more it'll be supplied to them. It doesn't matter how much money they have in their bank account, if it's cheap and tastes good, they'll eat it. Too bad they don't realize how this cheap "taste-good" food is doing more harm than good, even if they understand if it's bad for them and they don't have the time and money to cook their own and make healthier food.

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Cows are meant to be rumage animals (strictly grass/bush/weed fed animals), fast food industries force cattle to grow faster by feeding them strictly high protein pellets. Yes the cows grow faster, but it is horribly mean to the cow because of the acidity level that builds up in the stomach and causes some to die from the inside out. Also the meat is mostly fat. Its mean to the cow and horribly unhealthy for you.

You mean that cattle are ruminant animals, not "rumage" animals.

And some other corrections that should be made in your statement:

1) It really is not the fast-food companies themselves that have the feedlots, it's the large corporate meat packers like Cargill and Tyson Foods that are big on feedlot cattle. I've heard claims about McDonald's having its own feedlots, but I'm not sure if that's true or not.
2) Feedlot finishers are not fed "strictly high protein pellets," most feedlot beefers in the USA are fed corn and corn silage along with other additives like distiller grains, waste bakery products, waste potato chips and candy bars, etc, which is not strictly high protein feeds, but rather protein AND energy feeds. Protein itself does not put on weight quickly, it's the energy content in the feed that does. That's why there's a lot of fat content in the beef that is sold in most grocery stores, and in the conventional fast-food chains.
3) It's not "horribly mean" if the cattle are eager to go and eat the feed, they're not exactly forced on it because they choose to eat it. Even though, indeed they are placed in an area that they don't have any other feeds to eat from, it still isn't exactly "forced" because they'll still go and eat the feed they're given. Not that I'm defending the feedlot, but still...
4)Cattle don't exactly "die from the inside out" from acidosis. Tissues aren't being sloughed off or die as a result of eating a high-concentrate diet, it's more about an imbalance of pH that causes a higher build up of acid-loving bacteria, which results in the animal going off feed, having greyish foamy diarrhea, and dying from the high acid build-up in their systems. That's not dying from the inside out, that's a severe metabolic disorder. Acute acidosis is what kills, and is especially so when cattle are introduced much too quickly to such high-concentrate diets as those fed in feedlots.
5) Sure it seems mean to the "cow," but at least it is only subject to this sort of feed system for a few months of its life (and I'm talking about beef steers and heifers, not dairy cows) before being slaughtered.

Besides, a lot of fast food burgers are made from old culled cows, as well as parts of meat that are not deemed suitable to be made as roasts, steaks and other cuts of beef.

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These companies that raise the cattle have the room for a cattle to graze but they don't let them.

Not true. These operations don't have enough land to graze the amount of cattle they feed, only enough to make the feedstuffs needed to give to these animals. It takes six to eight months more (and a lot more acreage) to finish a beef steer on pasture than it does in the feedlot.

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They use the land to grow corn and grain that is harvested ground up and put into pellets that are fed to the cattle. The cattle are kept in small unsanitary mud pens which usually builds up in the hoof and causes a bad case of hoof-rot that caused the cattle to go lame.

Wrong. It's the diet that they're fed that causes them to go lame. Cattle can get founder too, not just horses, and it's primarily due to the high-concentrate feedstuffs they're fed. Hoof-rot is an infection that comes about when hooves get cracked from drying too quickly, uneven ground, or a piece of iron, steel or metal like a nail impales the hoof wall causing an infection. I've seen plenty of cattle with mud in between their hooves and none of them got hoof-rot.

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These cattle are then dragged into the butcher by chains.

Also incorrect. These cattle are already dead, they're not alive when they're "dragged into the butcher by chains." They get stunned by a cap-bolt gun and throats cut immediately after and they don't feel a thing after the cap-bolt gets driven through their brains. Sure the legs may still be moving, but that's not an indication that they're still alive.

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Are you still going to eat at mcdonalds?

I never have to begin with. I haven't eaten at a fast-food place let alone a fast-food burger for years.

I still love my home-grown beef though. Raised on pasture or alfalfa-grass mix hay with a bit of chopped barley, and Mmm mm mmm! Nothing better than home-raised beef! :D