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  • Jul 21, 2008, 04:46 PM
    BishopJill
    Two wrongs don't make a right!
    It's funny what men will do to get back the women they love, when they didn't love her when she was there. Some say you don't miss your water till your well runs dry. It is one thing to no you are doing wrong and continue, and another when you can't stop.
    I have been with my wife for ten years sense we where children, before we could drink.(in public):rolleyes:. Through the years we have traveled, and have taken care of GOD"s three gifts to us.(children). Our life seemed like a power struggle. I tap out she wins. We have not proven one another has cheated but??
    My wife has taken our children to O.K. She had some one come down to Texas and drive of with them with out me having any knowledge. I flip out real bad no violence but boy my mouth. Well A restraining order was place on me for three years, and the only way I can see my children is if I file for divorce. Which is not something I believe in, O did I mention I found out during this ordeal I was biplor.(wow)
    She has started coming down bringing the children to my mothers house and going to spend the night somewhere else in town. She still is hunging opening back up to me and even sleeping in the same room with me(not the same bed). She has created a wounderful life in O.K. for herself and our kids. But long story short, I think she wants a diviorce, but wants to remain around and just be involved in family events. I want my family back and. Don't know what to do
  • Jul 21, 2008, 05:04 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BishopJill
    It's funny what men will do to get back the women they love, when they didn't love her when she was there. Some say you don't miss your water till your well runs dry. It is one thing to no you are doing wrong and continue, and another when you can't stop.
    I have been with my wife for ten years sense we where children, before we could drink.(in public):rolleyes:. Through the years we have traveled, and have taken care of GOD"s three gifts to us.(children). Our life seemed like a power struggle. I tap out she wins. We have not proven one another has cheated but???
    My wife has taken our children to O.K. She had some one come down to Texas and drive of with them with out me having any knowledge. I flip out real bad no violence but boy my mouth. Well A restraining order was place on me for three years, and the only way I can see my children is if I file for divorce. Which is not something I belive in, O did I mention I found out during this ordeal I was biplor.(wow)
    She has started coming down bringing the children to my mothers house and going to spend the night somewhere else in town. She still is hunging opening back up to me and even sleeping in the same room with me(not the same bed). She has created a wounderful life in O.K. for herself and our kids. But long story short, I think she wants a diviorce, but wants to remain around and just be involved in family events. I want my family back and. don't no what to do



    Have you asked her what she wants?
  • Jul 22, 2008, 05:16 PM
    BishopJill
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JudyKayTee
    Have you asked her what she wants?

    Yes, and she says to be friends, she brings the children down but never sees if I'm off work to see them. I have to hear there coming down and take off at the last minute. She says maybe 3 or 4 years she might know; she just doesn't know. What ever God tells her to do. But this same person that does not want to pretend where this perfect family anymore, wants to continue or Christmas holiday traditions. Because she has realized my family is the only family she's really got. I have no need to be this woman's friend like that. She does not answer questions. And her words are hollow. But she still wants to hang around as if where still married. And we are. I don't call her Mom, sister, or any of her family members. O and when she comes to town she drops the children off at my Mom's house and stays with me alone, praying before we go to sleep. Not in the same bed but in the same room. And the next night stays somewhere else? Iv'e told my children with her in the room everything, and one says get a divorce, because you can see is more. And the other tells me to wait the three years that I have been placed on the restraining order for. I hate seeing them cry when they have to leave because they just really don't want to go. And it seems like she just doesn't care, or does she. Every time we talk she cries. About little stuff.
  • Jul 22, 2008, 06:19 PM
    N0help4u
    She wants to 'see' you while it sounds like she is staying with somebody else for the most part and conveniently makes it hard for you to see your kids?
    As long as she is getting it all her way, what she wants, when she wants, the way she wants then nothing is going to work for you.
    Why don't you believe in divorce? The Bible says if the other leaves you then you are free to divorce. Sounds like in her heart she left you and you are just something 'at her convenience
    You need to really think things out and make priorities. Don't let her walk all over you.
    Next thing you know she will file for divorce and full custody of the kids and you might have very little say.
  • Jul 22, 2008, 06:21 PM
    N0help4u
    Also who is listed on the restraining order that you are not allowed to see?
    Her or the kids or both? She is violating the restraining order which makes it in non effect.
    So what is her point in having it?
    Something isn't making sense with the restraining order.
  • Jul 22, 2008, 06:41 PM
    BishopJill
    She and the Kids are, but she calls, sends letters, and visits
  • Jul 22, 2008, 07:54 PM
    N0help4u
    Then she has violated the order. She herself is not even allowed to get a message to you through a third party or it is violation. So basically she wants everything her way, like if you do anything to get her mad then she will call and say she has the order and want the police to enforce it, but as long as she is happy she probably won't.
  • Jul 22, 2008, 08:33 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u
    Then she has violated the order. She herself is not even allowed to get a message to you through a third party or it is violation. So basically she wants everything her way, like if you do anything to get her mad then she will call and say she has the order and want the police to enforce it, but as long as she is happy she probably won't.


    If she's willingly violated the restraining order it no longer is in effect in many, if not all, States.

    And she can only take advantage of you when you allow it.
  • Jul 22, 2008, 09:18 PM
    N0help4u
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JudyKayTee
    If she's willingly violated the restraining order it no longer is in effect in many, if not all, States.

    And she can only take advantage of you when you allow it.

    He would have to point that out but many cops will not listen by the time they are coming to haul you off.
  • Jul 22, 2008, 09:23 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u
    He would have to point that out but many cops will not listen by the time they are coming to haul you off.



    Yes, very true - well, I'd tell her to stay away from me for fear she's setting me up (were I the poster). How easy it would be for her to claim he's in violation. Hopefully all of these visits are being documented.
  • Jul 23, 2008, 02:24 PM
    BishopJill
    I live in Ennis, Tx do you have any layer suggestions, that could get a restraining order droped in O.K. Or should I find one in O.K.

    And the bible says the only reason for a divorce is proven adultry, and the laws of the bible were made 430 years before the laws most people go by. I choose to use my head and my heart. And my head tells me you or right. And my bible tells me everything should be don desently and in order.
  • Jul 23, 2008, 03:09 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BishopJill
    I live in Ennis, Tx do you have any layer suggestions, that could get a restraining order droped in O.K. Or should I find one in O.K.

    And the bible says the only reason for a divorce is proven adultry, and the laws of the bible were made 430 years before the laws most people go by. I choose to use my head and my heart. And my head tells me you or right. And my bible tells me everything should be don desently and in order.



    Not everyone here is Christian - I also think if I had a restraining order against me I might try reading the pertinent sections of the Bible again. Right - no violence, just flipping out, whatever that means.
  • Jul 25, 2008, 04:40 PM
    BishopJill
    I have contacted a lawyer and we have filed a motion to vacate. Don't know what will happen, but I'm almost done with thinking I'm dealing with someone who cares about anyone but themselves. How do you take children from all the family they have ever known and fell nothing. What type of mother is that??
  • Jul 25, 2008, 05:01 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BishopJill
    I have contacted a lawyer and we have filed a motion to vacate. Don't know what will happen, but I'm almost done with thinking I'm dealing with someone who cares about anyone but themselves. How do you take children from all the family they have ever known and fell nothing. What type of mother is that???



    I'm not here to argue with you - but what type of father is so abusive (I know, it wasn't physical it was just a problem with "your mouth") that the wife is able to get a restraining order against him in order to protect her children.

    I don't think it's all about her - I think she did what she could to protect her children from you and very possibly that is still what she is doing.

    You seem to hold yourself completely blameless in this mess and I don't read that you are.
  • Jul 25, 2008, 05:55 PM
    BishopJill
    The blame can and should be placed on me. All of it. But if you are scared of me why does she do what she is doing?
  • Jul 25, 2008, 06:04 PM
    BishopJill
    I was wrong. I was wrong. But what type of mother wathes her daughters cry because they don't want to leave there father, and has a ice cold look on there face. O did not say that my oldest daughter, was taken away from her father as well and has never seen the guy. And my wife's father has not been seen for 25 years, after the legal problems he had with her mother. I will always be apart of my children's life, and I think any man that does not try is well not a man...
  • Jul 26, 2008, 04:55 PM
    BishopJill
    Until our court date, I have notified her to stay in O.K. and please stop calling my family members, She has all over her MY Space how cruel I am. But why can this women never look at her on stuff, and impressions she makes. I felt good by telling her to stay away, but is this going to make her more upset or what.

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