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  • Jun 24, 2008, 11:08 PM
    alionline83
    Networking not working
    Hi All,
    Here is my story. Im using 2 P4 computers named AAA and SSS. Both have lancard and they are connected via router for a single internet connection which works for one PC at a time. Today I tried to connect both PCs for file sharing but couldn't. I gave AAA ip: 192.168.0.1 and SSS 192.168.0.2.
    File sharing is on, netbios over tcp IP enabled, firewall "off" on both PCS and workgroups are also same "mshome". Both PCs can ping each other. AAA can see itself and SSS when I click "View Workgroup Computers"but it cannot access SSS this error appears "SSS not Reachable, you may not have permission... bla bla bla". SSS cannot even open workgroup folder which means that it can't even see itself in workgroup. I am sure that there is no hardware conflict because I have shared files before on these two computers without hardware change.I reinstalled WinXP pro on both PCs after which I couldn't connect PCs. AAA using AVG free and SSS using avast 4.8.I turned off avast but no success. Please help. I asked the same question in Yahoo answers Networking Problem!, Wired both Intel P4? - Yahoo! Answers but no proper reply received. I have run the networking wizard on both machines. My intention is not to share internet on both machines but I want to share files between them.

    Waiting for positive reply.

    Muhammad Ali
  • Jun 25, 2008, 07:23 AM
    tsila1777
    Not sure I completely understand the question, but we had to go to main PC and approve file sharing before second PC could get to them.
  • Jun 25, 2008, 07:28 AM
    NeedKarma
    Make sure that they are in the same Workgroup (same name) and that they booth have the same subnet address (typically 255.255.255.0)
  • Jun 25, 2008, 11:24 PM
    alionline83
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    Make sure that they are in the same Workgroup (same name) and that they booth have the same subnet address (typically 255.255.255.0)

    All checked, subnet mask is same, both are in same workgroup mshome. ANyone, please
  • Jun 27, 2008, 05:36 PM
    seahwk83
    Are the folders shared themselves? Right click on folder you want aaa to see on sss and choose sharing and security and share folder and give full permission.
    This is the only thing I did not see in your question
  • Jun 27, 2008, 10:36 PM
    tsila1777
    Yes, Sea is right, I should have explained that more clearly. The 'rate this answer' doesn't seem to be working for me anyway... so this is my way of saying good answer.
  • Jun 28, 2008, 01:21 AM
    alionline83
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by seahwk83
    are the folders shared themselves? right click on folder you want aaa to see on sss and choose sharing and security and share folder and give full permission.
    this is the only thing I did not see in your question

    Well this folder sharing thing can be a problem if one computer can open the other computer in workgroup but cannot share files. |Here SSS is not even opening the workgroup.
  • Jun 28, 2008, 01:27 AM
    alionline83
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by seahwk83
    are the folders shared themselves? right click on folder you want aaa to see on sss and choose sharing and security and share folder and give full permission.
    this is the only thing I did not see in your question

    Well this folder sharing thing can be a problem if one computer can open the other computer in workgroup but cannot share files. |Here SSS is not even opening the workgroup.
  • Jun 28, 2008, 07:14 AM
    chuckhole
    You must allow two levels of permissions: Share and File. To allow Share permissions, you will need to add the Everyone group Full Control. This way, the Share will not be restricted. This means that you can connect to the share. It does not mean that you can access files.

    Second, you must set security for the files and folders within the share location. Right-click on the root folder of the Share and select Properties and then Security. To add a user or group to the permissions, you will need to add them with the full domain\user contect. The domain name is the computer name of the other computers you want to add. So on computer AAA, if you want the add the Users group on SSS, you would add SSS\Users to the file/folder security and give it the ability to Read or Change files. The permissions should be set to Inherit to all of the subfolders.

    This same action needs to be performed on each machine in your Workgroup.

    Note that these actions must be performed by an Administrator level user on each computer.
  • Jun 28, 2008, 01:27 PM
    twilcox
    I agree completely with Chuck and would have posted it myself if he hadn't gotten there first. Also, I thought I would point out a slight problem with your IP configurations. 192.168.0.1 is often reserved for the router. I would recommend using 192.168.0.100 and 192.168.0.101 as the IP addresses for your computers. Leave your router's IP as 192.168.0.1 (which will be set as your gateway on both machines. This will ensure that both computers can connect to the Internet at the same time.

    In summary:

    AAA
    IP Address: 192.168.0.100
    Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
    Primary DNS: 192.168.0.1


    SSS
    IP Address: 192.168.0.101
    Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
    Primary DNS: 192.168.0.1

    It may not be a problem now, but trust me, save yourself the headaches down the road.
  • Jun 29, 2008, 01:11 AM
    alionline83
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chuckhole
    You must allow two levels of permissions: Share and File. To allow Share permissions, you will need to add the Everyone group Full Control. This way, the Share will not be restricted. This means that you can connect to the share. It does not mean that you can access files.

    Second, you must set security for the files and folders within the share location. Right-click on the root folder of the Share and select Properties and then Security. To add a user or group to the permissions, you will need to add them with the full domain\user contect. The domain name is the computer name of the other computers you want to add. So on computer AAA, if you want the add the Users group on SSS, you would add SSS\Users to the file/folder security and give it the ability to Read or Change files. The permissions should be set to Inherit to all of the subfolders.

    This same action needs to be performed on each machine in your Workgroup.

    Note that these actions must be performed by an Administrator level user on each computer.

    Thanks for the answer. I see that you are a network expert but Sir I am not :) Please tell me where can I find that root share folder etc? I simply can't figure out why I can't see AAA on SSS. Workgroup is not accessible that's my first problem. I tried everything to resolve it. AAA can see SSS when I assign the IPs as I mentioned above and most interestingly SSS can ping AAA but cannot even open the work group. Workgroups are same MSHOME. Please help me.

    To the post below this: Thanks very much for the answer, I have tried the IP thing but unfortunately I am using cable net and it uses automatic setting for IP any other IP makes it disconnected.

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