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  • Jun 17, 2008, 01:33 PM
    Sean Thorton
    Can a "C" Corporation own and "S" Corporation?
    I would like to know, if a "C" Corporation can own an "S" Corporation?
  • Jun 18, 2008, 06:16 AM
    excon
    Hello Sean:

    Think of a corporation as a taxpayer, who has the same rights you do as a taxpayer, except that a corporation can't vote, and it doesn't die.

    Anything YOU can own, a corporation can own.

    excon
  • Jul 18, 2008, 11:14 AM
    taxCPA
    Consult with appropriate tax professionals whenever getting into something significant.

    Under Internal Revenue Code Section 1361(b)(1), only certain shareholders can be part of an S corporation (generally just resident individuals and a couple kinds of trusts) and C corporations are certainly not part of the mix.

    If you set this up, your S corporation would immediately turn into a C corporation as its election to be taxed as an S corporation would be taken away.
  • Nov 18, 2009, 10:51 AM
    azlaw97

    Tax CPA is right, a C Corp. cannot own an S Corp. However, an S Corp can own a C Corp.
  • Dec 16, 2009, 02:03 PM
    djerry4231
    azlaw97 is exacly 100% WRONG!! Exactly opposite.
  • Dec 22, 2009, 08:38 AM
    AK lawyer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by djerry4231 View Post
    azlaw97 is exacly 100% WRONG!! Exactly opposite.

    Wrong. Azlaw97 is right.

    Quote:

    For purposes of this subchapter, the term “small business corporation” means a domestic corporation which is not an ineligible corporation and which does not
    (A) have more than 100 shareholders,
    (B) have as a shareholder a person (other than an estate, a trust described in subsection (c)(2), or an organization described in subsection (c)(6)) who is not an individual,
    www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/26/13http://61(c)(6).html

    Translation: An "S corporation" may not have another corporation as a shareholder.

    A corporation is not an "individual".
  • Dec 22, 2009, 09:40 AM
    djerry4231
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AK lawyer View Post
    Wrong. Azlaw97 is right.



    www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/26/13http://61(c)(6).html

    Translation: An "S corporation" may not have another corporation as a shareholder.

    A corporation is not an "individual".

    Thank you for proving my point... A C corp can own a subchapter S or LLC... not the other way around.
  • Dec 22, 2009, 09:49 AM
    AK lawyer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by djerry4231 View Post
    Thank you for proving my point.....A C corp can own a subchapter S or LLC....not the other way around.

    Huh? I didn't prove your point.

    The "owned" subchapter S corporation must be owned by an individual, not by another corporation, subchapter C,D, E, F, or whatever.

    Sure, the C could own the S, but in that case the S would not qualify to be an S.
  • Dec 22, 2009, 09:54 AM
    djerry4231
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AK lawyer View Post
    Huh? I didn't prove your point.

    The "owned" subchapter S corporation must be owned by an individual. Not by another corporation, subchapter C,D, E, F, or whatever.

    Ok... I see, my apologies. How about an LLC then? The reason for my research was that I'm forming a holding corporation and I wanted to know what structure the sub companies should or needed to be. I responded previously as to how I understood corporation ownership to be.

    Thank you in advance

    Jerry
  • Dec 22, 2009, 11:43 AM
    AK lawyer

    A LLC is not a "person", an "estate, a trust... or an organization described [ in sect. 501(c)(3); i.e. a qualifying non-profit]. So no.

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