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  • Jun 7, 2008, 07:48 AM
    George_1950
    Democrat Implosion Imminent
    An interesting article from R. Brownstein in National Journal: "But cumulatively through the primaries, exit polls found that Obama won only 35 percent of the Latino vote, 35 percent of the Catholic vote, 30 percent among whites without college degrees, and 28 percent among white seniors—groups that the party typically relies upon. He also faces doubts among Jews, a small bloc that might nevertheless tip the scales in Florida and Pennsylvania. Early polling diverges on whether Obama could run as well as Clinton among those constituencies against presumptive GOP nominee John McCain. Even if the answer is no, Obama could offset any erosion by posting gains in his demographic strongholds. But his struggles with such groups as Latinos and working-class whites increase the odds that he will need to assemble a new coalition to win, probably one tilted more upscale than usual for Democrats. “At the beginning, I thought we would rather run against Hillary,” one top GOP operative says. “But it is more of a challenge for him than for her to put together a coalition.”Brownstein: The Democratic gamble - National Journal - MSNBC.com
    Actually, I don't think the Right will have to do much at all as the hot air escapes this far left blow-hard, with no record and no plans, other than 'change'.
  • Jun 7, 2008, 08:34 AM
    excon
    Hello George:

    It won't be the first time they gave it away... However, I have a sneaking suspicion, that they're going to have their act together. It's them, frankly, who don't have to do much. The country is pretty pissed off at you Republicans, right now.

    I also agree that McCain isn't going to have to do much. I don't think he has much of a plan so not doing much is right up his alley. You guy's would have had a much better shot if you had nominated Romney. McCain IS a stand in, no?

    excon
  • Jun 7, 2008, 08:38 AM
    George_1950
    The title is directed toward the White House and the national election; your observation about the GOP within the districts and states is exactly right; George II has pulled a George I, and pissed off everyone; W has been a very poor conservator and steward, and has only himself to blame.
  • Jun 7, 2008, 03:02 PM
    BABRAM
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by George_1950
    Democrat Implosion Imminent

    Dubya has completely nuked any chance of a third term pachyderm bid in November. I'm extremely doubtful that even the Democrats could screw this up. Every time a person buys milk, bread, and eggs, fills up with gas, or hears news of mothers missing their sons in Iraq, it's another vote for the Democrats.
  • Jun 7, 2008, 08:52 PM
    Choux
    Americans are sick of the angry white guys and all their lies, propaganda, and FEAR TACTICS just like you engage in here.

    There will never be a third Bush term for Johnny McTwitchy. He has flip flopped on EVERY MAJOR ISSUE that Americans are concerned about just to please his masters at the head of the Republican Party.

    Now, with 40% of Evangelicals supporting Obama, I think there is a leak in McBush's main constituency. You see, all evangelicals are used to crazy pastors and don't hold it against Obama. :)
  • Jun 8, 2008, 01:40 AM
    tomder55
    A small portion of Bush's coalition will vote for Bob Barr and some will not show up. But that is nothing compared to the challenge the Dems more radical version of McGovern will have. McCain being smack in the middle will appeal to what were once called "Reagan Democrats".I think the Republicans stumbled onto the right candidate for this cycle.

    The Dems ought to hope I am right. Look at it this way. The Dems dominating the Congress and Presidency got us 12 years of Reaganism . The Republicans have shown they can't run the country holding both branches either. Perhaps a divided government is in all of our best interests.

    The nutty social programs the Democrats will institute can be rolled back .A dirty bomb detonation will be more difficult to reverse. McCain will win because national secuirty is still the primary reason a President gets elected. Obambi only has street cred ;not national secuirty cred.
  • Jun 8, 2008, 05:40 AM
    BABRAM
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55
    McCain will win because national secuirty is still the primary reason a President gets elected.

    The economy is by far the most important in voters mind, in most elections. As for security, our country will be just as safe with Obama at the helm, perhaps more so with attention devoted to our own backyards. You're predicting McCain is going to be our next president??
  • Jun 9, 2008, 02:26 AM
    tomder55
    I made no prediction ;just a stated preference given the choice I am given .
    The economy and foreign policy are all interconnected this time around.
  • Jun 9, 2008, 05:00 AM
    BABRAM
    Oh? Campaigning; that's what that was! Just checking. :)
  • Jun 9, 2008, 06:49 PM
    inthebox
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BABRAM
    Dubya has completely nuked any chance of a third term pachyderm bid in November. I'm extremely doubtful that even the Democrats could screw this up. Every time a person buys milk, bread, and eggs, fills up with gas, or hears news of mothers missing their sons in Iraq, it's another vote for the Democrats.


    Not only Dubya, but the GOP that spent like crazy.

    I don't think Iraq or Afghanistan matters as much to the average voter, compared to making the mortgage and filling the tank. Or maybe it does?

    Why would Obama be running within % points of McCain with the gas > or = to $4 / gallon, unemployment rising [ half % ], and the economy slowing?

    This is Obama's to lose in my opinion... as long as the bus ride doesn't get to bumpy ;)
  • Jun 10, 2008, 02:05 AM
    tomder55
    This is the year of the upset... the Giants ;Big Brown coming in last at the Belmont... McCain beating " H".
  • Jun 10, 2008, 04:30 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    I don't think Iraq or Afghanistan matters as much to the average voter, compared to making the mortgage and filling the tank.
    That is indeed a testament to the success of the Bush doctrine.

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