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  • Apr 18, 2008, 07:01 PM
    Icanonlyimagine
    Looking for intergrity and does association matters
    In the United States there are three people running for President and one of them have some intergrity problems in my opinion. So, tell me what you think of this opinion and if this information should be used to prove that associations does matter when it comes to whomever holds the Highest Office in the World (not talking about the Pope).

    Next letter on issues concerning Mrs. Clinton and the question on integrity and ethics and morality.

    Mrs. Clinton would have done a better job as to mention her and her husband response to the challenges that came when an American high officials killed and how she (and her husband) responded to this incident as the President and the First Lady and now as the candidate for the high office of President.

    It is interesting to keep in mind that the aircraft used by Ron Brown and staff was used by then First Lady Hillary Clinton and other VIP’s only two weeks previously.


    “WASHINGTON (Reuter) - President Clinton's wife, Hillary, and daughter, Chelsea, flew on the same plane last week that crashed in Croatia with Commerce Secretary Ron Brown aboard, U.S. Air Force sources said Wednesday. A military version of the widely used Boeing 737 passenger jet flew Mrs. Clinton and her 16-year-old daughter from the Turkish capital of Ankara to the ancient biblical city of Ephesus and on to Istanbul last Wednesday. The T43A plane, with a tail number of 1149, was based at the U.S. air base at Ramstein, Germany, the sources said. Mrs. Clinton used it rather than the Boeing 707 assigned to her for a week-long goodwill tour of southern Europe because of the short runway at Ephesus. The same plane was used to ferry Defense Secretary William Perry in and out of Bosnia last week. Mrs. Clinton also visited the Yugoslav region during her trip but used a giant C-17 military cargo jet for that leg of her journey”


    This act would have given creditably to her international experiences claims. Instead Hillary response (questionable) has opened doors to other questionable events doing her husband’s terms in presidential office. Or could this be a diversion from any issue concerning past deals for campaign contributions that are not legal and questionable? Is Hillary jumping the gun thinking the public will be weary about the story about her lie and not listen to the event that she was trying (alleged to have) cover-up?

    Right now, I have no idea how the government responded to this incident beside televised funeral.

    “…It is worth noting that Ron Brown was just one of four Clinton campaign fund raisers to die under questionable circumstances. The others were C. Victor Raiser II, Hershel Friday, and Ed Willey, a total of three plane crashes and one "Fosterization". Following
    Brown's demise, his personal attorney as well as a co-worker at the Department of Commerce, Barbara Wise also, died under questionable circumstances. As in the case of yet another "suddenly dead" member of the Clinton administration, Vincent Foster , Ron Brown's office was ransacked for files by Commerce staff immediately after his death…” WHATREALLYHAPPENED.COM

    There are/were allegations that continued to become known that Brown had traded seats on trade missions for Democratic National Committee for campaign donations, and had even “solicited money from Vietnam!” Ron Brown's Commerce Department at the times … were leaking classified satellite technology to the Chinese. Brown's closest associate and lawyer Nolanda Hill admitted on ABC-TV that Brown was using drugs, and that the White House had ordered Brown to meet with John Huang( a Chinese diplomatic ). (Italics are quotes or understandings from other’s written opinion)
    WHATREALLYHAPPENED.COM

    This action can classify as a explanations on how Taiwan got nuclear parts instead of batteries…something like this could have been happening since the Clinton administration and probably will continue…Maybe… this is my opinion for now.

    I wonder were these people who were killed in plane crashes and other strange events pushed under the bus after something so challenging was coming the Clinton’s way …as a high official in the Clinton administration officials are making deals to sale classified information without congressional approval.

    And could these actions could cause this woman the office of the President


    “…the Dubrovnik airport weather office told a different story. The official weather report issued at the time of the crash reported light scattered rain, broken clouds at 400 feet, a thin overcast at 2000 feet, and a steady head wind right down the runway just the way pilots like it. The reported visibility was 5 miles. The flight crew acknowledged receiving this weather report (more about that later). The distance from the airport to where the aircraft crashed was less than two miles…”
    WHATREALLYHAPPENED.COM



    Another report of the incident from UPI

    “WASHINGTON, April 3 (UPI) -- A U.S. Air Force plane carrying Commerce
    Secretary Ron Brown in the Adriatic Sea near the port city of Dubrovnik
    on Tuesday, officials said.

    The White House said wreckage was spotted in the Adriatic Sea near
    Dubrovnik. The debris apparently came from the plane, which was carrying
    Brown and an undetermined number of leading U.S. business executives,
    who were on a trade mission to Bosnia-Herzegovina.

    ``The wreckage in the Adriatic is his,'' a Pentagon official told
    United Press International, speaking on condition of anonymity. "www.whatreallyhappened.com


    “WASHINGTON, April 3 (UPI) -- A U.S. Air Force plane carrying Commerce Secretary Ron Brown in the Adriatic Sea near the port city of Dubrovnik on Tuesday, officials said. The White House said wreckage was spotted in the Adriatic Sea near Dubrovnik. The debris apparently came from the plane, which was carrying Brown and an undetermined number of leading U.S. business executives, who were on a trade mission to Bosnia-Herzegovina. ``The wreckage in the Adriatic is his,'' a Pentagon official told United Press International, speaking on condition of anonymity. NATO officials at Avian Air Base in Italy said the plane crashed while on approach to the Dubrovnik airport. They said a rescue mission from a French aircraft carrier was the first on the scene, and the search for survivors was later joined by U. S. helicopters and C-130 aircraft. Croatian officials told CNN that the plane crashed into a mountain near Dubrovnik, but the report could not be immediately confirmed. NATO said the plane disappeared from radar at 2:55 p.m. local time, three minutes after it had been cleared for landing by Dubrovnik traffic controllers. The craft was identified as a T-43, the military equivalent of a Boeing 737. White House Press Secretary Mike McCurry said the plane was three hours overdue on landing in Dubrovnik from Tuzla in northern Bosnia- Herzegovina, and that there was no indication of foul play related to the plane's crash. ``Mechanical was the likely reason for the crash. Nobody could plant a bomb on the plane in Tuzla (which is operated by the U.S. military). If it's over the sea nobody's going to shoot it down,'' the Pentagon official said. The chances of anyone surviving the crash are ``somewhere between slim and none,'' he said. The T-43, was used by U.S. Secretary of Defense William Perry and Secretary of State Warren Christopher during their recent trips to the Balkans. Officials said weather conditions were extremely poor near Dubrovnik at the time of the crash. Brown, 54, was traveling with 27 passengers and about 12 crew members, including U.S. business leaders who were seeking to help develop Bosnia after the country's four-year war. The White House said it was looking into who was actually aboard the plane. The delegation was to proceed to Zagreb, the Croatian capital, to meet Croatian political leaders and local U.S. businessmen. Brown was to return to Washington on Friday. U.S. President Bill Clinton canceled a planned appearance at the Justice Department following reports that the plane was missing. Brown had been due to spend three days in Bosnia-Herzegovina and Croatia, joining business leaders in meetings with local government and business leaders in a bid to stimulate U.S. investment in the war- ravaged region. Brown also had been meeting during his tour with U.S. soldiers assigned to the region's multinational peacekeeping mission. Brown told reporters Tuesday in Paris that rebuilding the region would cost an estimated $5.1 billion. World Bank President James Wolfensohn also was touring the region this week, and a conference of donor nations was scheduled for next week in Belgium. …”

    The event that lead to the death of a public official would have been more interesting than a lie. Dodging bullets. It does seem that the family lives for a good misunderstanding in my opinion

    I wonder were these people pushed under the bus after something so challenging coming the Clinton’s way …as a high official in the Clinton administration official is making deals to sale classified information without congressional approval. For she felt a lie was better than given this man the respect that he deserved as a represented that died in service to his nation first.


    I know the republicans just cannot wait to jump into the Clinton financial records if she is elected as the democratic nominee for President.

    Crocodile Tears
    The site above leaves me to wonder do these people really care about any one else other then themselves and there pocket book. No hope? If Hillary cannot support a friend doing the hard times what kind of person or people are the Clinton family. Remember the friends whom sacrifices much for their happiness.



    Thank you,

    Icanonly imagine
    An American striving for perfection and supporting a caring government given a stewardship over this nation.
  • Apr 18, 2008, 07:44 PM
    N0help4u
    4 mysterious deaths??

    TRY THIS and I haven't even checked if it includes all the ones on the other site I have.

    THE CLINTON BODY COUNT
  • Apr 19, 2008, 06:39 AM
    excon
    Hello I:

    Sure, integrity matters.

    One of the candidates is married to a reformed drug addict who admitted to stealing prescription drugs... Should he or she have gotten divorced over it.

    Another candidate is married to a person who cheats on them. Should he or she have gotten divorced over it?

    Another candidate has a friend who blew up bridges 40 years ago. Should he have thrown his friend under the bus?

    excon
  • Apr 20, 2008, 02:28 PM
    Galveston1
    Ex, you're just going to have to forget about Ron.
  • Apr 22, 2008, 12:57 PM
    Icanonlyimagine
    Thank you for having the integrity to search beyond the image. If, we the people want to create a nation that will stand for perfection and make the necessary changes the move this nation forward.

    I do listen to words from politicians that say “we need to go back to days”. I no longer will support those that refuse to use history as a learning tool. So, I can only imagine a nation that is under the will of the greatest power known GOD! I believe a leader can be strong knowing what battles are to be fought. So, the fight against those that would support you is a fruitless battle.

    The problem that I have is how we the lay people bring the truth to the public. For the democrats and the republicans have done enough killing of their own house.

    It is becoming an up hill battle to keep my children interested in their future. I have to dismiss the nastiness of those give stewardship over this nation as what comes around goes around and will kick them in their . Our leaders now especially Hillary and Chaney are showing too many weaknesses that will hurt us as a nation needing the support of the most high. We need not to keep telling others there is no hope and then say they believe in the most high. It must be in their own way that most cannot detect.

    I thank you for your site and I/we will send the site to others. Let the power of the people move forward with words and actions to change the nation for a much better and strong , secure and one that shows prosperity for all those on this rock.

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