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  • Apr 13, 2008, 06:58 PM
    SARACHRIS
    Realtor entering rental property in PA
    I was wondering how far in advance a realtor has to make tenant known of a showing of the property. My family and I are under the assumption of a twenty four hr notice.
    Thanks
  • Apr 13, 2008, 07:03 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    24 hour is customary and is in some state laws. What notice does your rental agreement says has to be given prior to a home inspection.
  • Apr 14, 2008, 06:44 AM
    SARACHRIS
    Our lease says 24 hr notice unless its an emergency. We signed a 2 yr lease and now we are paying I guess you can say month to month. We asked the realtors nicely for 24hrs notice and they got really rude, and said thy'd put a lock box on the house if need be. Can they do this?
  • Apr 14, 2008, 07:06 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SARACHRIS
    our lease says 24 hr notice unless its an emergency. we signed a 2 yr lease and now we are paying i guess you can say month to month. we asked the realtors nicely for 24hrs notice and they got really rude, and said thy'd put a lock box on the house if need be. can they do this?


    I believe that the terms of your original lease become the terms of your month-to-month when the lease expires and you remain on the property so, no, they cannot enter without 24 hour notice (unless it's an emergency).
  • Apr 14, 2008, 07:17 AM
    LisaB4657
    Judy is exactly right. Tell the realtor that if they don't give you 24 hours notice, and if they try to put a lockbox on the house, that you'll call the police.
  • Apr 14, 2008, 07:22 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LisaB4657
    Judy is exactly right. Tell the realtor that if they don't give you 24 hours notice, and if they try to put a lockbox on the house, that you'll call the police.


    Lisa, could the tenant install some sort of deadbolt or other lock to keep the realtor out? I realize calling the Police is a better idea but the realtor apparently has keys and I wonder if the OP might not realize the realtor had been in and out.

    Or can't you do that?
  • Apr 14, 2008, 07:29 AM
    LisaB4657
    If they install a deadbolt then they're supposed to give a key to the landlord, who will probably just give it to the realtor. The tenant is better off calling the police the first time. If the realtor keeps it up then I'd install a deadbolt.
  • Apr 14, 2008, 09:15 AM
    SARACHRIS
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SARACHRIS
    I was wondering how far in advance a realtor has to make tenant known of a showing of the property. My family and I are under the assumption of a twenty four hr notice.
    thanks

    Thanks, the lease Does State 24 Hr notice for the Landlord or their Agent... Now the next question... our landlord has raised the rent w/o any written notice. Original lease was two years and has been month to month since July of 07 so we will would be her for 3 years in July. There are multiple areas in the lease were the landlord has changed thing w/o written notice or written agreement by use... EX: lease says he must do Lawn care... and last year he said he were responsible. Costing use money... The landlord is a nice person but I think to Ignorant to know what he is doing... There is no animosity between us (YET) but I feel like my family and I am being taken advantage of. We don't want to move but at this point all they care about is selling the house and paying their DEBT not what happens to my family or our Neighbors

    FYI our landlord used to live next door (He owns the entire double house) but then got a bigger house and then rented the other side.. Now they own too much money and are trying to sell. This is when all the problems started…
  • Apr 14, 2008, 09:55 PM
    Donna Miller
    Looks like you found out your first answer... It is call "The Covenant of Quiet Enjoyment" where the landlord (or Real Estate Agent) must give the tenant a certain amount of notice before entering.

    As for the new question... unless specifically provided for in the lease, a lessee typically has no right to "renew" a lease. If you are now month to month without a written agreement, you may have lost your original tenant rights. Since you have no ill feelings with each other at this time, I would suggest you sit down with your landlord (with a copy of the original lease) and REALLY talk about it... all friendly feelings aside... treat it more like a complete business transaction. Good Luck
  • Apr 15, 2008, 08:12 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Donna Miller
    Looks like you found out your first answer...It is call "The Covenant of Quiet Enjoyment" where the landlord (or Real Estate Agent) must give the tenant a certain amount of notice before entering.

    As for the new question...unless specifically provided for in the lease, a lessee typically has no right to "renew" a lease. If you are now month to month without a written agreement, you may have lost your original tenant rights. Since you have no ill feelings with each other at this time, I would suggest you sit down with your landlord (with a copy of the original lease) and REALLY talk about it...all friendly feelings aside...treat it more like a complete business transaction. Good Luck


    When you go from lease to month-to-month without a new written agreement the terms of the lease prevail. It is not a new tenancy. If you want new or different terms they have to be in writing (as a month to month tenancy).

    There is also one State - and perhaps Lisa knows - where the lease renewal is automatic UNLESS cancelled in writing - obviously not the case here but that always seems backwards to me.

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