I hate to admit it, but I know nothing about politics, which at this point in life makes me feel rather stupid.

I did not have a political upbringing in any fashion. As I grew, I found no interest in the subject to do further research on my own, which I admit is bad.

However I am having a really hard time this year figuring out who I am going to vote for. For crying out loud I do not even know if I am a Democrat or a Republican.

I don't like any of the presidential candidates this year, and I did not vote for Bush.

I usually vote for the best guy or girl for the job, therefore I must be an Independent? However this year I am not sure who the best guy or girl for the job is.

I love this country, our country, -- THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA -- and the only thing that is important to me, at this point in time, is stopping the war and bringing our soldiers home!!

Therefore, does anyone have any ideas, opinions, thoughts or beliefs that could aid me in this year's decision?

Thanks!

I agree many are not happy with any of the choices this time around. Unfortunately we do not seem to get enough people together to vote for an outside choice and have any real chance of winning.
The way I see it
Hillary--self ego trip in it for herself only!
Obama--shaky too shaky to trust
McCain--only option but still not satisfactory

I have two questions for you:

What does the United States of America stand for?

What is it that you love the most about the United States of America?

I've almost given up completely on the political situation in our country. It seems that no matter who gets elected, nothing ever gets any better, or at least, if it does, it does not last long.

I'm for smaller government, keeping more of the money I earn, making sure that our second amendment rights are kept in force, and less government intervention in our private lives.

That being said, leans me towards the right, who I do not always agree with, but much more often than the left.

Honestly, the only thing I can say about the possible choices is that John McCain would probably be the less damaging to the things I feel are important. I think that any of the Democrats will make huge increases in our taxes to maintain their socialistic practices of the re-distribution of wealth so that we can become even closer to a communistic society.

As far as the war, I don't like it, but I also believe that if we just cut and run, like the Dems want, we will find out the hard way that it was the biggest mistake ever made, even bigger than going there in the first place.

Ok, off my soap box now!

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Originally Posted by George_1950

I have two questions for you:

What does the United States of America stand for?

What is it that you love the most about the United States of America?

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To me the United States of America stands for freedom.

What I love most about this country is my right to have a vote.

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Originally Posted by N0help4u

I agree many are not happy with any of the choices this time around. Unfortunately we do not seem to get enough people together to vote for an outside choice and have any real chance of winning.
The way I see it
Hillary--self ego trip in it for herself only!
Obama--shaky too shaky to trust
McCain--only option but still not satisfactory

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I agree. Exactly what I was thinking.

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Originally Posted by progunr

I've almost given up completely on the political situation in our country. It seems that no matter who gets elected, nothing ever gets any better, or at least, if it does, it does not last long.

I'm for smaller government, keeping more of the money I earn, making sure that our second amendment rights are kept in force, and less government intervention in our private lives.

That being said, leans me towards the right, who I do not always agree with, but much more often than the left.

Honestly, the only thing I can say about the possible choices is that John McCain would probably be the less damaging to the things I feel are important. I think that any of the Democrats will make huge increases in our taxes to maintain their socialistic practices of the re-distribution of wealth so that we can become even closer to a communistic society.

As far as the war, I don't like it, but I also believe that if we just cut and run, like the Dems want, we will find out the hard way that it was the biggest mistake ever made, even bigger than going there in the first place.

Ok, off my soap box now!

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Thanks. This is exactly what I was looking for.

Thanks; I understand why you love your country. Just curious, though: why does the United States of America stand for freedom?

And, why do you believe you should enjoy freedom?

Do you believe you should enjoy freedom to the extent that your friends and neighbors cannot sleep in your room and eat at your table, uninvited? Or do you believe freedom means the right to have a place to sleep each night and something to eat every day?

08777444
If you oppose the war then only Obama and Hillary want to surrender .

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Originally Posted by George_1950

Thanks; I understand why you love your country. Just curious, though: why does the United States of America stand for freedom?

And, why do you believe you should enjoy freedom?

Do you believe you should enjoy freedom to the extent that your friends and neighbors cannot sleep in your room and eat at your table, uninvited? Or do you believe freedom means the right to have a place to sleep each night and something to eat every day?

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Uh-oh! I see something happening here. I just looked at another thread called the "H" word. I am not looking for a debate George_1950. I have already stated my position.

I posted this thread asking for OTHER PEOPLES ideas, opinions, thoughts and beliefs.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

08777444
if you oppose the war then only Obama and Hillary want to surrender .

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Thanks Tom, these were the remarks I was looking for.

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Originally Posted by 08_777444

Uh-oh! I see something happening here. I just looked at another thread called the "H" word. I am not looking for a debate George_1950. I have already stated my position.

I posted this thread asking for OTHER PEOPLES ideas, opinions, thoughts and beliefs.

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You can take solace with Socrates: "I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance."

I am just happy for anybody else to step into office and for Bush to leave. I don't care who it is. I really like Hil's platform but I can't stand her! I really think that on paper Obama sounds like he would work miracles for this country, but while I am an optimist I am also a cynic and I don't think that this country can be fixed in 4 years. Plus all of the stuff that has been coming out about him lately is just weird. I like the fact that Mccain appears to lay low. I think he is a reasonable candidate. I don't think that I would mind any of these becoming president.

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Originally Posted by TallBlondie

I am just happy for anybody else to step into office and for Bush to leave. I don't care who it is. I really like Hil's platform but I can't stand her! I really think that on paper Obama sounds like he would work miracles for this country, but while I am an optimist I am also a cynic and I don't think that this country can be fixed in 4 years. Plus all of the stuff that has been coming out about him lately is just weird. I like the fact that Mccain appears to lay low. I think he is a reasonable candidate. I don't think that I would mind any of these becoming president.

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Nicely put. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by TallBlondie

I am just happy for anybody else to step into office and for Bush to leave. I don't care who it is. I really like Hil's platform but I can't stand her! I really think that on paper Obama sounds like he would work miracles for this country, but while I am an optimist I am also a cynic and I don't think that this country can be fixed in 4 years. Plus all of the stuff that has been coming out about him lately is just weird. I like the fact that Mccain appears to lay low. I think he is a reasonable candidate. I don't think that I would mind any of these becoming president.

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I listened to Hillary at Constitution Hall, March 26, and some of her speech was:
"We need a president who understands...it's really hard out there... with gasoline at $4/gallon. It's morally unacceptable for young women not to get health care when she needs it. It's time for the US to provide quality health care to everyone. The insurance companies have too much power over your life. Education is the passport: we need universal pre-K; too many kids just give up by third grade." my notes
What would Abe say? What would Jefferson or Washington say? If Obama is to the left of Hillary, what would he say? How much of this can you afford to pay, yourself?

I hear that her free mandatory health care is going to cost EVERY one just like the health ins. Companies bill you every month but it will be the government billing ALL of us for OUR 'free' health care.

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Originally Posted by 08_777444

I love this country, our country, -- THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA -- and the only thing that is important to me, at this point in time, is stopping the war and bringing our soldiers home!

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Hello 08:

The war will only be ended if you vote for one of the Democrats.

Sure, the right calls it surrender because, although it can't define what winning is, it sure knows what losing is.

excon

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Hello 08:

The war will only be ended if you vote for one of the Democrats.

Sure, the right calls it surrender because, although it can't define what winning is, it sure knows what losing is.

excon

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Hello Ex:

Just to clarify something, are you saying the Republicans are the right and the Democrats are the left?

08

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Originally Posted by 08_777444

are you saying the Republicans are the right and the Democrats are the left?

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Hello again, 8:

Yup.

excon

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Originally Posted by N0help4u

I hear that her free mandatory health care is going to cost EVERY one just like the health ins. companies bill you every month but it will be the government billing ALL of us for OUR 'free' health care.

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You seems a little confused. There is no such thing as "free" health care, not anywhere in the world. It's called socialized medicine or publicly funded health care (like here in Canada). Whoever told you it's free is quite ignorant. In the same vein as there are no free roads or firefighter service, it's all from the tax base.