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  • Feb 3, 2006, 11:36 AM
    jduke44
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    Help with bathroom sink
    Tom, Here is my problem. I want to replace my vanity and sink but the existing plumbing is to the left of the sink about 4-5" I want to put in. I attached a picture for you to look at. I was wondering if I could connect an angle stop the supply lines and then a flex hose to the faucet I want to put in. It will look a little funny but it will be eaiser then replumbing since it is upstairs and I don't have much access to the pipes.

    Also, the drain will be to the left. Would it be practical to just extend a pipe to the drain and vent.

    Also, the vent and drain pipe tee where I would have to cut won't allow for alot of room to put another tee. Is there another option?

    I went to Lowes and got confused with all the sizes I need to get. I didn't trust the emplyees there to give me the right pieces. I wanted to cut the existing supply lines and put an angle stop there then the flex hose. What pieces would I need to connect that and the sizes of each end. It seems that the common would be 3/8" one end to 1/2" or something like that. See, I told you I was confused.

    The red line is the area I told you was hard to get something else connected to. The tailpiece connected to the trap just goes up to the sink. I had to do for the sake of space.

    I know you've said s-traps are illegal now but I live in Upstate NY and Lowe's sells them. Any thoughts as to why? Thanks for your help or anyone else who wants to respond.
  • Feb 3, 2006, 12:52 PM
    speedball1
    "I wanted to cut the existing supply lines and put an angle stop there then the flex hose. What pieces would I need to connect that and the sizes of each end."

    Ask for two 1/2 X1/4" compression stops. You may then cut out the old stops and either install the new stops on to the open pipes or use two 1/2' couplings and some short pieces to bring the stops up to where a flex hose would reach the faucet. Another option would be to use 1/4" copper supplies/nose cones to connect to the faucet.


    I know you've said s-traps are illegal now but I live in Upstate NY and Lowe's sells them. Any thoughts as to why?"

    There's a reason "S" traps are outlawed in all the states and Canada. When the water drains past the trap it sets up a suction. The vent relieves the suction. If the suctiom is not vented the reap seal can be lowered allowing sewer gas to escape into your home. By installing a "S" trap on your lavatory you bloched the vent as if it wern't there. Sewer gas is hazardous to your families health and the methane content makes it explosive. You ask ,"Why are they sold if they're illegal?" While it's not illegal to sell them it's illegal and against code to install them,( go figure). They are on the market because do-it-yourselfers are lazy and don't want the hassle of venting the fixture and instead gamble with their families health.
    Now, let's get that "S" trap out of your system. Cut the 1 1/2" PVC off at the branch of the tee and prime and glue on a 1 1/2" DWV coupling you may now arm over to the new drain. DO NOT raise the trap but instead keep the trap at the same elevation and use a long PVC tailpiece to connect to the drain. Sound like a plan? Tom
  • Feb 3, 2006, 01:08 PM
    jduke44
    Sounds like a plan. I am hoping to get to this next week, so if I have any questions I will post back. Thanks for your quick response. That was my next question as far as whether my drain was considered an 's' trap. I see so many drains that are behind the wall so it seems easier to not have the 's' trap. The twoo houses I have had always drained down below so having an 's' trap seemed inevitable. I will give your option a try as I do not want the 's' trap there. I don't need any more problems. Thanks again for your help.
  • Mar 17, 2006, 01:44 PM
    jduke44
    Tom, I know this was over a month ago since you gave me the advice but I finally got to the job. I wanted to let you know that your advice went well. They placed the tee with the branch so low that the trap was resting on the floor of the vanity. I had to use a flexible extension pipe from the branch to the trap so I would be able to give more of an angle. None of the common elbows would work. I didn't like having to do this because this will probably will clog more but I had no choice. I will just have to do routine maintenance more often to keep the pipes cleaned out. Lowe's did gain my trust again as the guy there suggested the flexible pipe as an option. The other option would have been the rubber adaptor. Thanks again.

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