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  • Feb 25, 2008, 04:40 AM
    tomder55
    Ralph Nader
    He is running as an independent because the 2 candidates for the Democrats are not far enough to the left for his tastes . Lol The truth is that Nader is an anti-semite . That is his real reason for running He says Obama sold out to the Israelis .

    From the trascript of his announcment on Meet the Depressed

    Quote:

    But Senator Obama is a person of substance. He's also the first liberal evangelist in a long time. He's run a brilliant tactical campaign. But his better instincts and his knowledge have been censored by himself. And I give you the example, the Palestinian-Israeli issue, which is a real off the table issue for the candidates. So don't touch that, even though it's central to our security and to, to the situation in the Middle East. He was pro-Palestinian when he was in Illinois before he ran for the state Senate, during he ran--during the state Senate. Now he's, he's supporting the Israeli destruction of the tiny section called Gaza with a million and a half people. He doesn't have any sympathy for a civilian death ratio of about 300-to-1; 300 Palestinians to one Israeli. He's not taking a leadership position in supporting the Israeli peace movement, which represents former Cabinet ministers, people in the Knesset, former generals, former security officials, in addition to mayors and leading intellectuals. One would think he would at least say, "Let's have a hearing for the Israeli peace movement in the Congress," so we don't just have a monotone support of the Israeli government's attitude toward the Palestinians and their illegal occupation of Palestine.
    Ok normally I would encourage Democrats to support a Nader candidacy just because anything that pushes them further left than they already are improves their chances of defeat. But the American people have got to make it very clear to Nader that his time is gone. Go crawl under the rock you came from already !
  • Feb 25, 2008, 05:10 AM
    talaniman
    I think after 5 tries, he doesn't expect to win, but he does enjoy being a spoiler. Will it work? I don't think so this time. The democrats are putting up record numbers as far as total votes go, so his impact may not mean as much.
  • Feb 25, 2008, 05:20 AM
    tomder55
    If it is a close election ;and I don't see why it can't be ; his 2-3% could be decisive.

    I kind of doubt that his will be the only indi challenge this year. If Ron Paul loses the primary for his Congressional seat expect him to revive his run or go independent.
  • Feb 25, 2008, 05:28 AM
    shygrneyzs
    Ralph Nader. Bring back Pat Paulson. At least he was funny!
    I agree with you on Mr. Nader. He should have long since been put to bed, politically speaking. I liked his consumer advocacy but not his politics.
  • Feb 25, 2008, 06:53 AM
    shygrneyzs
    Ralph Nader for President in 2008 — Join with us today

    I just saw one of his ads on the morning news. He wants to take on everybody! Rots of ruck.

    Edit: here is his civics test:
    Ralph Nader for President in 2008 -- Civics Test
  • Feb 25, 2008, 07:03 AM
    tomder55
    He used to be Don Quixote now he resembles Narcissus without the looks .
  • Feb 25, 2008, 07:07 AM
    shygrneyzs
    Roflmao... so true...
  • Feb 25, 2008, 07:38 AM
    tomder55
    Between this and Louis Farrakhan's endorsement, it's not been a good weekend for Obama.

    Louis Farrakhan Endorses Obama at "Saviours' Day" Event in Chicago: A Tale of Who Shall Be King
  • Feb 25, 2008, 07:55 AM
    talaniman
    Adversity makes you stronger, and he is still on a roll. He still has been speaking to jam packed audiences in Texas so far. The money is pouring in. 60 million, in Feb. so far? Record voter registrations, in just Texas? I need bad weekends like that.
  • Feb 25, 2008, 08:02 AM
    tomder55
    I'm sure he appreciates an endorsment from screwy Louie like McCain would if he got one from David Duke. I know the dinosaur media would have a field day if that were to happen . I guess the question is will the press hold him to the same standard ?
  • Feb 25, 2008, 08:23 AM
    shygrneyzs
    I saw that speech too from Farrakhan and thought this does more harm than good to Barack. Isn't politics just grand? Can you hear the background song, "who let the dogs out?"
  • Feb 25, 2008, 08:56 AM
    speechlesstx
    Louie's endorsement should be no surprise to Obama.

    Quote:

    Barack Obama is a member of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ. Its minister, and Obama's spiritual adviser, is the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. In 1982, the church launched Trumpet Newsmagazine; Wright's daughters serve as publisher and executive editor. Every year, the magazine makes awards in various categories. Last year, it gave the Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award to a man it said "truly epitomized greatness." That man is Louis Farrakhan.
    Whether Obama likes it or not, he has to deal with this.
  • Feb 25, 2008, 01:08 PM
    shygrneyzs
    Yep.

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