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  • Feb 18, 2008, 10:49 AM
    speechlesstx
    Damage From U.S. Extremists a Concern
    Personally I think damage from any extremist is a concern...

    Quote:

    BOSTON (AP) — When it comes to fears about a terrorist attack, people in the U.S. usually focus on Osama bin Laden and foreign-based radical groups. Yet researchers [INDENT]say domestic extremists who commit violence in the name of their cause — abortion or the environment, for example — account for most of the damage from such incidents in this country.
    Read the entire article here.

    The 68 domestic terrorist incidents in the researcher's database since 9/11 break down like this:

    36 by Earth Liberation Front
    5 by Animal Liberation Front
    1 by Revolutionary Cells Animal Liberation Brigade
    26 by Unknown or other group

    Of the 26 "unknowns":

    8 Blamed on or suspected by unknown eco-terrorists, ALF or ELF
    9 Anthrax letters
    3 Ricin incidents
    2 Against the Cuban- American National Foundation headquarters
    1 Unclear

    Plus these 3:

    Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, an Egyptian-born man, opened fired at the El Al Israeli Airlines ticket counter at the Los Angeles Airport (LAX), killing two people and wounding three others.

    One woman was killed and five other injured when Naveed Afzal Haq, a Muslim-American man, opened fire on the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle building in downtown Seattle.

    Two "unsophisticated" grenades exploded outside a building that houses the British consulate in New York City.

    What was the point of this exercise, and especially this article? The first example the writer mentions is "abortion" terrorism, then mentions "white-supremacist" groups 3 times, "right-wing extremists" twice and "left-wing activists" once. Apparently white-supremacists are a big concern to the author and right-wing terrorists are "extremists" while left-wing terrorists are merely "activists." Sounds noble doesn't it?

    It seems to me our biggest domestic terrorism concern is hands down from eco-terrorists/animal rights wackos. Oh, and not one incident of anti-abortion terrorism is listed for the past 6 1/2 years. I also didn't find anything attributed to "white-supremacists." Seems like "left-wing activists" almost have a monopoly on domestic terrorism in the US these days, so why the fear-mongering about "right-wing extremists" by this al-AP reporter?

    Comments?
  • Feb 18, 2008, 11:09 AM
    George_1950
    Perhaps we can file under, "One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist."
  • Feb 18, 2008, 03:02 PM
    Skell
    Or the extremists who continue to get access to machine guns and continue to slaugther dozens if not 100's of your innocent students whilst they sit in class at University. Why isn't somehting done about these extremists and their 'weapons of mass destruction'?
  • Feb 18, 2008, 03:16 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skell
    Or the extremists who continue to get access to machine guns and continue to slaugther dozens if not 100's of your innocent students whilst they sit in class at University. Why isnt somehting done about these extremists and thier 'weapons of mass destruction'?

    Sad as that is it has nothing to do with my post, Skell. What I want to know is why is the Associated Press is portraying domestic terrorism to be the territory of "white-supremacists," "right-wing extremists" and abortion bombers when the evidence they cite shows not only none of the above, but that it can be primarily attributed to "left-wing extremists?" Laziness? Bias? Dishonesty? What?
  • Feb 18, 2008, 03:31 PM
    Skell
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    Sad as that is it has nothing to do with my post, Skell. What I want to know is why is the Associated Press is portraying domestic terrorism to be the territory of "white-supremacists," "right-wing extremists" and abortion bombers when the evidence they cite shows not only none of the above, but that it can be primarily attributed to "left-wing extremists?" Laziness? Bias? Dishonesty? What?

    Sorry ! I know!

    I would suggest a little bit of each of the above, with also a splash of truth.
  • Feb 18, 2008, 03:38 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skell
    Sorry ! I know!

    I would suggest a little bit of each of the above, with also a splash of truth.

    Maybe some day they can try for more than a splash? ;)
  • Feb 18, 2008, 03:52 PM
    NeedKarma
    I kind of agree with Skell in that there are bigger fish to fry so to speak:
    CDC - Men's Health - Leading Causes of Death in Males
    Quote:

    Leading Causes of Death in Males
    United States, 2004
    1) Heart disease 27.2
    2) Cancer 24.3
    3) Unintentional injuries 6.1
    4) Stroke 5.0
    5) Chronic lower respiratory diseases 5.0
    6) Diabetes 3.0
    7) Influenza and pneumonia 2.3
    8) Suicide 2.2
    9) Kidney disease 1.7
    10) Alzheimer's disease 1.6
  • Feb 18, 2008, 03:56 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    I kind of agree with Skell in that there are bigger fish to fry so to speak:
    CDC - Men's Health - Leading Causes of Death in Males

    NK, I can certainly agree there are bigger fish to fry in the US than domestic terrorism from "white-supremacists," "right-wing extremists" and abortion bombers. The evidence they cite says so.
  • Feb 18, 2008, 04:03 PM
    George_1950
    One example, a left-wing extremist - the abortionist - is licensed and beyond the law. 'They' are in control of the media and write whatever they wish.
  • Feb 18, 2008, 04:15 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by George_1950
    One example, a left-wing extremist - the abortionist - is licensed and beyond the law. 'They' are in control of the media and write whatever they wish.

    The right-wing administration has much more power and much more blood on its hands. :) The media quip is quite funny - make sure that tinfoil hat is on tight. :D
  • Feb 18, 2008, 05:02 PM
    Skell
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    Maybe some day they can try for more than a splash? ;)

    BUt then things would get too boring Steve. :D
  • Feb 18, 2008, 07:22 PM
    Galveston1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    The right-wing administration has much more power and much more blood on its hands. :) The media quip is quite funny - make sure that tinfoil hat is on tight. :D

    I thought the right -wing administration passed and signed into law the prohibition of partial-birth abortion? I thought G.W. Bush appointed judges who were more likely to rule in favor of life than death. Bloody hands? Some time ago, the figures were 40 MILLION babies aborted in this country. The right wing didn't do that. The really idiotic part of all this is that those who support this holocaust are worried about Social Security being there for them when they get old. The morons killed over 40 million TAXPAYERS who will not be there to support them in their "golden years".
  • Feb 18, 2008, 08:00 PM
    inthebox
    Speech..

    Hypcrisy, propaganda from the "mainstream" media?. Oh my, never...


    Good point Galv.

    3000 lives killed every day, and the media thinks the right wing is nuts.
  • Feb 19, 2008, 02:05 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Galveston1
    I thought the right -wing administration passed and signed into law the prohibition of partial-birth abortion? I thought G.W. Bush appointed judges who were more likely to rule in favor of life than death. Bloody hands? Some time ago, the figures were 40 MILLION babies aborted in this country. The right wing didn't do that. The really idiotic part of all this is that those who support this holocaust are worried about Social Security being there for them when they get old. The morons killed over 40 million TAXPAYERS who will not be there to support them in their "golden years".

    So those who 'killed' these taxpayers, what should happen to them? Is it murder? Should they be tried for capital punishment?
  • Feb 19, 2008, 04:09 AM
    tomder55
    NK ;not quite. Yesterday Bill Clinton was all over the news defending his fine record of reducing abortions to only 1.2 million a year. Abortion appears to be the new "final solution" .
  • Feb 19, 2008, 04:13 AM
    NeedKarma
    Ok, so answer the question: we know who these killers are (the mothers), what should be their punishment in your opinion?
  • Feb 19, 2008, 04:19 AM
    tomder55
    So long as the Government sanctions it ,it is not the mothers but the government responsible for the genocide.
  • Feb 19, 2008, 04:28 AM
    NeedKarma
    Are you actively seeking the capital murder charges from the government then?
    So why isn't the government responsible for killings during a war?

    So if women sought abortions from a private clinic then it's OK right?
  • Feb 19, 2008, 04:31 AM
    tomder55
    No it is not right. But it is legal. I did not say I was seeking capital punishment just a change in the law and a Supreme Court that will not make laws themselves.
  • Feb 19, 2008, 04:33 AM
    NeedKarma
    Why are you giving women a free pass in all this? They are the ones making the primary decision to MURDER! Everyone else is just an accessory to the crime. Should the women not be taken into custody?

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