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  • Feb 6, 2008, 12:31 PM
    Dark_crow
    SO, you think Americans want “change,” an “outsider,” the New Guard?
    What happened…Senators McCain and Clinton are Old Guard candidates. They are Washington incarnate. And they are winning.:D
  • Feb 6, 2008, 12:33 PM
    shygrneyzs
    At least Hilary did not win here in North Dakota. I have that to be thankful for and I am. One of the problems is that some people cannot think out of the box they put themselves in.
  • Feb 6, 2008, 12:39 PM
    tomder55
    DC I'm waiting for the tin-foil hat crowd to tell us that the media picked the candidate for us as if they followed the people into the voting booths.

    I wonder how many more tears Evita has in her ducts . She seems to surge whenever she sheds them . I have talked to people in the military and they seem to admire the "maverick" aspects of McCain .

    I think the reason the mainstream candidates are fairing well is because the left and right extreme has spent the last 8 years gnawing on the ankles of their opponents and their own. They have created litmus tests that even their own candidates can't measure up to.
  • Feb 6, 2008, 12:57 PM
    Dark_crow
    You pinned the tail on the Donkey, and Elephant Tom; how often does mainstream opinion reach the headlines or talk shows? We are fed extremism from both quarters.
  • Feb 6, 2008, 05:07 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    I was listening to the news today ( OK, conservative talk radio) but they were saying that Obama won yesterday more than Hillary, both in number of states and in number of primiary votes.

    But yes, I guess from what it looks a large number of people just want the things the same, guess we should have just let Bush run again.
  • Feb 6, 2008, 08:23 PM
    George_1950
    I don't believe the Democrat contest is over. I think McCain has won the trust of a lot of people because he offered leadership for the mess in Iraq and he is being rewarded. Don't know if he can carry that successfully into the general election or not. It may depend upon what happens in Iraq and to our economy between now and then.
  • Feb 6, 2008, 08:43 PM
    Skell
    Well to an extent you will be getting change no matter what. Clinton is a women, Obama is a black man, and McCain has disagreed with and been critical of Bush in the past. Isn't that change?

    To me judging by the candidates you have left it shows the people are looking for a change.
  • Feb 6, 2008, 08:54 PM
    George_1950
    Another perspective about the Obama mantra, "Change": He will be the most surprised SOB in Washington if and when he tries to change something and the porkers tell him his legislation is 'Dead on arrival'. What on earth is he talking about, anyway? What is his position on reparations for blacks? Is that what he means by 'change'?
  • Feb 6, 2008, 09:05 PM
    CaptainRich
    If change comes in the form of forward progress, then that is the change that American's desire. McCain is likely to get the GOP nomination, and so he'll get first crack at the best advise.

    Billary can cry all she wants but I don't think that makes her any more relevant. Obama has black heritage but he's about as non-black as they get, and that is so much a non-issue, with him or me.

    Personally, I want not so much change as well guided leadership. Right now, it looks like McCain has the best options there. Many will disagree, if only because they have different media pounding them or they simply have a different perspective altogether.
  • Feb 7, 2008, 05:45 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dark_crow
    And they are winning.:D

    Hello DC:

    Let's see, Rudy was winning for a while... Then I think Fred was winning...

    Me? I don't know. I wouldn't be calling this race just yet. Winning ain't won.

    excon
  • Feb 7, 2008, 06:46 AM
    tomder55
    Push comes to shove in the general election experience will beat out change easily .
  • Feb 7, 2008, 06:53 AM
    George_1950
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55
    push comes to shove in the general election experience will beat out change easily .

    Perhaps; but it didn't in Kennedy v Nixon, 1960
  • Feb 7, 2008, 07:35 AM
    tomder55
    Lol

    Actually that's a pretty good example to follow if you consider that Obama has the support of the Daley machine also .
  • Feb 7, 2008, 06:43 PM
    George_1950
    Dark_crow asks: "SO, you think Americans want “change,” an “outsider,” the New Guard?"
    The GOP has answered this in the Negative.

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