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Predictably they endorsed Evita :eek: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/25/opinion/25fri1.html

. But check out their kudos to John McCain :

We have strong disagreements with all the Republicans running for president. The leading candidates have no plan for getting American troops out of Iraq. They are too wedded to discredited economic theories and unwilling even now to break with the legacy of President Bush. We disagree with them strongly on what makes a good Supreme Court justice.
Still, there is a choice to be made, and it is an easy one. Senator John McCain of Arizona is the only Republican who promises to end the George Bush style of governing from and on behalf of a small, angry fringe.

Primary Choices: John McCain - New York Times

No word yet on if McCain will demand a retraction .:D :D

Their critique of Rudy on the other hand is enough to convince me to give him my support .

Tom, I had just read the McCain endorsement prior to your post and man did they slam Rudy. It does kind of make me like him even more :D

Here's an interesting take on the McCain endorsement from Hugh Hewitt:

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The Times' editorial board --the most reliably anti-conservative, anti-defense, anti-life, anti-originalism, anti-growth opinion machine in the major U.S. media-- loves John McCain and expects that if he is the nominee the Arizona maverick will govern in ways acceptable to them, especially on global warming and immigration.

They know their man. Does the GOP?

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anti-life, anti-originalism, anti-growth

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That man is an idiot.

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We have shuddered at Mr. McCain's occasional, tactical pander to the right because he has demonstrated that he has the character to stand on principle

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Yep ;when he's not pandering he's got that principle thing going for him.

American Spectator's Peter J. Wallison compares him favorably to Reagan.

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John McCain, although he has failed to toe the line of conservative orthodoxy, has many of the characteristics that the American people admired in Ronald Reagan, including the key elements that made him a successful president. In fact, given his electability, McCain offers a rare chance for conservatives to recapture the essence of the Reagan revolution.

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The American Spectator

So... he's Reaganesque without having the conservative orthodoxy. I get it.

But what was Reagan without his strong advocacy of conservatism ? As I recall McCain often betrayed conservative principles in the pursuit of building the reputation of a maverick. I think there has to be a lot of healing in the ranks before he is accepted .

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

That man is an idiot.

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Do you have anything good to say about a conservative?

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Do you have anything good to say about a conservative?

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You should no me better than that. Unlike you I take people as individuals not as groups that I like or hate.

As for your "journalist"'s article: how much drama are you trying to create when you label someone as against life, against being original, against growth?

Michael Reagan seems to think Newt could end up healing the ranks. As it is I'm bracing for the idea of McCain or Romney as the guy. Of course I don't get to vote until March 4th so they may very well be the only two choices left by then... other than Ron Paul :D

Cheney!!

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You should no me better than that. Unlike you I take people as individuals not as groups that I like or hate.

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Ok, conservative members of the media. You repeatedly slam FNC, you just slammed O'Reilly and now call Hewitt an idiot. Not mention that little "unlike you" dig on me which is totally false - there is an obvious pattern here and I know you can rise above that.

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As for your "journalist"'s article: how much drama are you trying to create when you label someone as against life, against being original, against growth?

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LOL, after all these years of reading the fear mongering, vitriol, intolerance and outright hatred from people like Keith Olbermann, Bill Maher, Janeane Garafalo and Ted Rall, that was pretty tame. My question is, is he wrong about the Times?

There is still the prospect that Bush will cancel the election and execute a "Bush/Cheney/Rove dictatorial coup." :rolleyes:

The Slimes writes: "The leading (Republican) candidates have no plan for getting American troops out of Iraq." Who has no plan? The Dems have no plan and no concern for a plan, other than ditching the plan President Bush and military leaders are developing right now; and all the Dems can say is, We have to stop the plan before it gets approved. Some criticism by the Slimes.

As for McCain, too late for a retraction; the other candidates can use the endorsement to Deep Six him in the South, probably in the West, also. Bwe he he he

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Who has no plan? The Dems have no plan and no concern for a plan, other than ditching the plan President Bush and military leaders are developing right now; and all the Dems can say is, We have to stop the plan before it gets approved.

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Parsing the Democrats' Iraq Plans - by Aaron Glantz

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... each of the big three Democratic candidates for president has pledged to withdraw large numbers of troops from Iraq during their first year in office. They also all say they oppose the construction and maintenance of permanent bases in Iraq. Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama say they're planing to remove approximately 6,000 American soldiers from Iraq every month during the first year of their presidency.
"We will begin to withdraw our troops within 60 days," Clinton promised last Sunday during an interview on NBC's Meet the Press program.

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Democrats may unite on plan to pull troops - The Boston Globe (from 2006!)

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The concept, dubbed ''strategic redeployment," is outlined in a slim, nine-page report coauthored by a former Reagan administration assistant Defense secretary, Lawrence J. Korb, in the fall. It sets a goal of a phased troop withdrawal...

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FOXNews.com - Democrats Plan Bills to Withdraw Troops From Iraq by Fall 2008 - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum (Fox News!)

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House Democrats on Thursday drew a veto threat from the White House after unveiling a plan that sets specific timetables to remove U.S. combat troops from Iraq and bring them home before fall 2008.

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So then ;why haven't the Democrats defunded the war yet ? They have been in control of Congress for a year . The reason ? They know that being weak on defense is not a good campaign position to take. They know that America does not want phased withdrawal time lines announced to the enemy. Their 6,000 per month proposal is a scam . The surge added about 50,000 troops to the 130,000 already there . 6,000 per month will bring us back to pre surge levels by November 2009 .Which means that it will take 2 1/2 years for complete withdrawal. Are they really campaigning on that ? Lol

I have listened to three Democrat debates and the only plan the candidates talk about is how fast they plan to leave. Which, in my view, is no plan; or a plan to surrender; but it is not a plan to keep the peace in the sense that we North Americans had the Atlantic Ocean on one side; and the mountains on our West, so that self government had at least a chance to evolve. Democrats have lost sight of the precious gift of liberty and the sacrifice it takes; listen to the next debate for any mention of the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. You will not hear any of that; Democrats have 'evolved', so it is the right to health care, right to a job, right to housing, right to unlimited abortions, right to complete gender/sexual freedom, etc. ad nauseum. Of course, in this cycle we may be hearing more about the right for whites to vote for whites, and blacks to vote for blacks; such is the path of Democrat evolution.

Did anyone notice Hillary taking credit for progress in Iraq in the debate a few days ago?

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"I believe what you're seeing happen is twofold. Of course the surge, the so-called surge, was able to pacify certain parts of Iraq. If we put enough of our men and women and equipment in, we're going to be able to have some tactical military success. But the whole purpose of the surge was to force the Iraqi government to move quickly towards the kind of resolution that only it can bring about.

"I think what is motivating the Iraqi government is the debate in the political campaign here. They know they will no longer have a blank check from George Bush, that I will withdraw troops from Iraq. And I believe that will put even more pressure on the Iraqis to finally make the decisions that they have to make.

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Yeah, that's it - a quarter century of Saddam, war with Iran, a US invasion, Islamic terrorists - and the Democratic campaign is the real motivator.

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You should no me better than that. Unlike you I take people as individuals not as groups that I like or hate.

As for your "journalist"'s article: how much drama are you trying to create when you label someone as against life, against being original, against growth?

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