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  • Nov 5, 2007, 11:47 AM
    speechlesstx
    Democrats wake up to being the party of the rich
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    By Michael Franc

    Published: November 4 2007 17:14 | Last updated: November 4 2007 17:14

    A legislative proposal that was once on the fast track is suddenly dead. The Senate will not consider a plan to extract billions in extra taxes from mega-millionaire hedge fund managers.

    The decision by Senate majority leader Harry Reid, the Nevada Democrat, surprised many Washington insiders, who saw the plan as appealing to the spirit of class warfare that infuses the Democratic party. Liberal disappointment in Mr Reid was palpable at media outlets such as USA Today, where an editorial chastised: “The Democrats, who control Congress and claim to represent the middle and lower classes, ought to be embarrassed.”

    Far from embarrassing, this episode may reflect a dawning Democratic awareness of whom they really represent. For the demographic reality is that, in America, the Democratic party is the new “party of the rich”. More and more Democrats represent areas with a high concentration of wealthy households. Using Internal Revenue Service data, the Heritage Foundation identified two categories of taxpayers – single filers with incomes of more than $100,000 and married filers with incomes of more than $200,000 – and combined them to discern where the wealthiest Americans live and who represents them.

    Democrats now control the majority of the nation’s wealthiest congressional jurisdictions. More than half of the wealthiest households are concentrated in the 18 states where Democrats control both Senate seats.

    This new political demography holds true in the House of Representatives, where the leadership of each party hails from different worlds. Nancy Pelosi, Democratic leader of the House of Representatives, represents one of America’s wealthiest regions. Her San Francisco district has more than 43,700 high-end households. Fewer than 7,000 households in the western Ohio district of House Republican leader John Boehner enjoy this level of affluence.

    The next rung of House leadership shows the same pattern. Democratic majority leader Steny Hoyer’s district is home to the booming suburban communities between Washington, DC, and Annapolis. It boasts almost 19,000 wealthy households and a median income topping $62,000. Mr Hoyer’s counterpart, minority whip Roy Blunt, hails from a rural Missouri district that has only 5,200 wealthy households and whose median income is only $33,000.

    Income disparity – to use the class warrior’s favourite term – is greatest among the districts of lawmakers that lead each party’s campaign arm. Maryland senator Chris Van Hollen chairs the Democratic congressional campaign committee. With more than 36,000 prosperous households and a median income of nearly $70,000, his suburban Washington district even out-sparkles Ms Pelosi’s. In contrast, fewer than 5,000 such wealthy households are found in the largely rural district of his Republican counterpart, Tom Cole from Oklahoma. The median income there is only $35,500.

    Democratic politicians prosper in areas of concentrated wealth even in staunchly Republican states such as Georgia, Kansas and Utah. Liberal congressman John Lewis represents more than 27,500 high-income households in his Atlanta district. The trend achieves perfect symmetry in Iowa. There, the three wealthiest districts send Democrats to Washington; the two poorest are safe Republican seats.

    Soon this new political demographic may give traditional purveyors of class warfare the yips. To comply with new budget rules, liberal Democrats on Capitol Hill are readying a tax increase of at least $1,000bn over the next decade. Ms Pelosi says she wants to extract all of this from “the wealthy”. When has a party ever championed a policy that would inflict so much pain on its own constituency? At what point will affluent Democrats crack and mount a Blue State tax rebellion?

    Will we see the emergence of a real-life Howard Beale, the television anchorman played by Peter Finch in the movie Network? Beale was disgusted with America’s deteriorating 1970s economy and culture. One night he snapped and implored viewers to get out of their chairs. “Go to the window, open it, and stick your head out and yell: ‘I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take this any more!’”

    Or will Democratic voters follow a different cinematic lead, that of the fraternity pledge in Animal House? Perhaps they will accept these tax rises as a political and economic hazing and greet each new tax hike with: “Thank you, sir. May I have another?”

    The writer is vice-president of government relations for the Heritage Foundation
    Comments?
  • Nov 5, 2007, 12:03 PM
    tomder55
    A real-life Howard Beale ? We have one already . His name is Keith Olberman. :D

    Steve ; limosine liberal has always been a workable description .

    Quote:

    The Senate will not consider a plan to extract billions in extra taxes from mega-millionaire hedge fund managers.
    Someone forgot to tell Hillary and Charlie Rangal that !
  • Nov 5, 2007, 12:11 PM
    ETWolverine
    I've known for a long time that for all their talk about being the "party of the poor", the Dems have about twice to three times as many millionaire party members as the Republican party. But I have rarely seen it demonstrated in this way. Good article.

    By the way, what are the "yips" that class warriors are going to be getting, and is there a cure for the "yips"? Is there an anti-"yips" medication that I should be taking? Can anyone get the "yips", or is it genetic? Is it catchy? :D

    Elliot
  • Nov 5, 2007, 12:22 PM
    Dark_crow
    Diagnosis: he does not pass the Bull Test, period: He jumps back and forth between comparing “High end” income and “average income.” Which makes everything he says suspect. Average incomes tell us very little.

    http://www.fightthebull.com/resources/bull_small.jpg
  • Nov 5, 2007, 01:15 PM
    speechlesstx
    OK, so the politics board is not the place for discussing a column about politics during an election cycle?
  • Nov 5, 2007, 01:22 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dark_crow
    Diagnosis: he does not pass the Bull Test, period: He jumps back and forth between comparing “High end” income and “average income.” Which makes everything he says suspect. Average incomes tell us very little.

    http://www.fightthebull.com/resources/bull_small.jpg

    DC, I don't see what you're talking about. He specifically spoke of "two categories of taxpayers – single filers with incomes of more than $100,000 and married filers with incomes of more than $200,000, and spoke specifically of "wealthy households" in certain districts - plus certain median incomes. He wasn't comparing the two.
  • Nov 5, 2007, 01:27 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55
    a real-life Howard Beale ? We have one already . His name is Keith Olberman. :D

    Steve ; limosine liberal has always been a workable description .



    Someone forgot to tell Hillary and Charlie Rangal that !

    I'm sure Evita will find a way to triangulate this in the coming days. By the way, did you see the ridiculous 'green' version of NBC's Sunday night football coverage, Olbermann, Costas and Collinsworth doing halftime by candlelight?
  • Nov 5, 2007, 01:31 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ETWolverine
    I've known for a long time that for all their talk about being the "party of the poor", the Dems have about twice to three times as many millionaire party members as the Republican party. But I have rarely seen it demonstrated in this way. Good article.

    By the way, what are the "yips" that class warriors are going to be getting, and is there a cure for the "yips"? Is there an anti-"yips" medication that I should be taking? Can anyone get the "yips", or is it genetic? Is it catchy? :D

    Elliot

    I foresee a huge spike in Xanax sales. Do you have stock in Pfizer?
  • Nov 5, 2007, 01:47 PM
    RubyPitbull
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    I foresee a huge spike in Xanax sales. Do you have stock in Pfizer?

    Of course! I have been preparing for this day for a long time! *wrings hands greedily*

    Interesting that we are suddenly getting politics questions being moved to the member forum. Mayhaps people are abusing the rep system over there? Are y'all not playing nicey nicey and hitting too many disagree buttons and pouncing on people? I will have to go take a looksee.
  • Nov 5, 2007, 02:13 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RubyPitbull
    Of course! I have been preparing for this day for a long time! *wrings hands greedily*

    Interesting that we are suddenly getting politics questions being moved to the member forum. Mayhaps people are abusing the rep system over there? Are y'all not playing nicey nicey and hitting too many disagree buttons and pouncing on people? I will have to go take a looksee.

    There is one that has a particular fondness for calling people fascists, but for the most part we're harmless. :D
  • Nov 5, 2007, 02:32 PM
    RubyPitbull
    LOL. I actually do peek in once in a while. I know exactly the who's who of that board. ;)
  • Nov 5, 2007, 02:41 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RubyPitbull
    LOL. I actually do peek in once in a while. I know exactly the who's who of that board. ;)

    Yeah, I know YOU know the who's who, but now that we've been brought in from the shadows... :D
  • Nov 5, 2007, 06:38 PM
    magprob
    Call them what you like but they all serve only one master.
  • Nov 5, 2007, 08:14 PM
    labman
    Since when have the Democrats worried about a few inconvenient truths?
  • Nov 6, 2007, 09:01 PM
    inthebox
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    OK, so the politics board is not the place for discussing a column about politics during an election cycle?


    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/politi...er-146794.html
    Since page 4,5 ?
  • Nov 6, 2007, 09:42 PM
    inthebox
    Presidential hopefuls report their wealth - CNN.com

    Salaries and Benefits of U.S. Congress Members

    Whether Republican or Democrat, all these congresspeople are wealthy by comparison to the overwhelming majority of American citizens.

    The fact that Democrats represent the wealthier districts may just mean they ran better campaigns or that rich people are masochistic? :confused:

    Maybe the 'poor' know that the Democratic stand on issues won't really help them, and thus vote Republican in the examples cited in the article.



    Grace and peace
  • Nov 7, 2007, 07:50 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by inthebox
    Presidential hopefuls report their wealth - CNN.com

    Salaries and Benefits of U.S. Congress Members

    Whether Republican or Democrat, all these congresspeople are wealthy by comparison to the overwhelming majority of American citizens.

    Absolutely, an average guy like me could never afford to run for office.

    Quote:

    The fact that Democrats represent the wealthier districts may just mean they ran better campaigns or that rich people are masochistic? :confused:
    I don't think so. If you follow the money in elections it overwhelmingly leans Democratic just as it did in 2006.

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    Maybe the 'poor' know that the Democratic stand on issues won't really help them, and thus vote Republican in the examples cited in the article.
    No way. The 'poor' would not bite the government hand that feeds them.

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