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  • Oct 17, 2007, 11:49 PM
    Clough
    Cast Iron Skillets
    What's this I hear about not washing cast iron skillets with soap and water after using them for cooking but just wiping them out with vegetable oil? I tried the vegetable oil thing for awhile. Seems kind of unsanitary, but I was willing to give it a try. Is wiping them with vegetable oil a good thing, bad thing, or whatever?

    If anyone has the "straight dope" on this, I would appreciate knowing what it is!

    Thank you! :)
  • Oct 18, 2007, 12:16 AM
    templelane
    Chemically it makes sense.

    Soap contains sufucatants which are part hydrophobic (water hating) with a hydrophillic head (water loving) so it can pick up grease and get it into water. It usually forms a little cirlce around the grease with the hydrophobic tails all pointing inward and the grease trapped in the middle. There's a picture on this page Surfactant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Vegetable oil is all hydrophobic so it will act as a solvent for the grease directly. It will dissolve the dirt directly. It will also have the added benefit of not oxidising the iron like water would, but forming a protective layer. I suppose this is why it is recommended.

    Random Fact- he acient greeks used to wash themselves in olive oil - very good for the skin. Removes dirt just as well as soap and is moisturising!

    I have no real life experience on the matter to know whether the above thoery is why people use vegetable oil, but it was the explanation that stood out to me when reading the question. Apparently Lard is better anyway How to Clean and season cast iron cook ware | eHow.com

    Hope this helps
  • Oct 18, 2007, 12:27 AM
    Clough
    Thank you for your answer!
  • Oct 18, 2007, 01:56 AM
    curlybenswife
    It might seem unsanitary but remember the heat you put into the pan before you use it anything bad gets burnt right away.
    If you keep washing the pan it will just go rusty and be no good at all ask ben what he did to my lovely cast iron pan ;) he was lucky I didn't hit him with it.
    Everything Temp has said is correct this is the one time id say don't folllow your instints one thing I will say though is once you have used the pan leave it on the heat turn it right up and let any excess food burn away leave to cool wipe out and treat.
  • Oct 18, 2007, 04:37 AM
    KISS
    Well, you do have to season the pan once and a while. I don't have any problem using soap. The mechanism is wash pan. Dry with paper towel. Heat empty pan on stove to remove moisture so it won't rust. Let cool on stove. Look at pan. If it isn't shiny, add a drop or so of oil. Wipe oil around pan with paper towel. Been doing it this way for years.
  • Oct 18, 2007, 04:50 AM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KeepItSimpleStupid
    Well, you do have to season the pan once and a while. I don't have any problem using soap. The mechanism is wash pan. Dry with paper towel. Heat empty pan on stove to remove moisture so it won't rust. Let cool on stove. Look at pan. If it isn't shiny, add a drop or so of oil. Wipe oil around pan with paper towel. Been doing it this way for years.

    Thank you for your answer also! I am learning things here!
  • Oct 18, 2007, 04:53 AM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by curlybenswife
    If you keep washing the pan it will just go rusty and be no good at all ask ben what he did to my lovely cast iron pan ;) he was lucky i didnt hit him with it.

    I think that you should have hit him with it regardless! :D

    Thanks for your answer, though! You have been very helpful! I am learning a lot here!
  • Oct 18, 2007, 08:20 AM
    lovelesspa
    I have been cooking with cast Iron just about my whole life, and have my grandmother Cast Irons, and she's turning 100 in about 2 weeks. The way she told me to do the seasoning is always to use lard (even though I cringe at the thought and feel of it), but it works best, doesn't leavy a sticky feel to the pots. But when your skillets are new you coat the pans with lard, generously, and lace in the oven set at about 300 degrees, keep in there for about 15 minutes. Pour out any excess oil and then place back in over for at least another hour or two. This creates the seasoning bond. Every time you cook in the beginning you should try and use food with high fat content, like bacon or foods cooked with fat cause this will also strengthen the process in the beginning.
    If rust appears it has not been seasoned properly or needs reseasoning, or it has wore off from foods sticking to it and need to be reseasoned. When this happens wash thoroughly with hot water and a soft scrubbing pad (the plastic kind), dry quickly with a paper towel and reseason. (Cleaning while the pan is still hot makes cleanup so easy, but don't use a scouring pad, like brillo or a hard detergent, cause this is what causes breakdown in seasoning) She told me not to use detergent in general, but I use a minute amount of a light detergent, one that doesn't contain bleach or hard core antibacterials solutions, something like Ivory. I love them and wouldn't cook on anything else, you get real use to them, quickly.
  • Oct 18, 2007, 08:32 AM
    Emland
    I do the same basic thing as KISS. I wash it in the sink with soap and water, rinse and dry on a low setting on the stove. Once it is cool, I spray it with PAM and wipe it dry with a paper towel.
  • Oct 18, 2007, 09:04 AM
    Wondergirl
    Didn't the chuck wagon "cookie" always wipe out the inside of his cast iron frying pan with sand and then a towel? The grit acted like SOS and the towel got rid of the sand. Setting it on the hot fire for a few minutes before putting anything into it sterilized it. Maybe you need a pan of sand at the kitchen sink... although your cat might find it useful too...

    Do you own a cast iron Dutch oven? One old camper was heard saying, "With my Dutch oven, I can cook potatoes and eggs in the morning, bake bread or cook a roast in the afternoon, and then bake a pineapple upside down cake for dessert. All in the same oven! What other piece of cookware ... can do that."
  • Oct 18, 2007, 10:18 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl
    Didn't the chuck wagon "cookie" always wipe out the inside of his cast iron frying pan with sand and then a towel? The grit acted like SOS and the towel got rid of the sand. Setting it on the hot fire for a few minutes before putting anything into it sterilized it. Maybe you need a pan of sand at the kitchen sink...although your cat might find it useful too....

    Do you own a cast iron Dutch oven? One old camper was heard saying, "With my Dutch oven, I can cook potatoes and eggs in the morning, bake bread or cook a roast in the afternoon, and then bake a pineapple upside down cake for dessert. All in the same oven! What other piece of cookware ... can do that."

    Your mentioning "cookie" reminds me of the "Old Dan Tucker" song. One of the verses is the following:

    "Old Daniel Tucker wuz a mighty man,
    He washed his face in a fryin' pan;
    Combed his head wid a wagon wheel
    And he died wid de toofache in his heel."

    From, Old Dan Tucker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    No, I don't own a Dutch oven.
  • Oct 18, 2007, 10:30 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lovelesspa
    I have been cooking with cast Iron just about my whole life, and have my grandmother Cast Irons, and she's turning 100 in about 2 weeks. The way she told me to do the seasoning is always to use lard (even though I cringe at the thought and feel of it), but it works best, doesn't leavy a sticky feel to the pots. But when your skillets are new you coat the pans with lard, generously, and lace in the oven set at about 300 degrees, keep in there for about 15 minutes. Pour out any excess oil and then place back in over for at least another hour or two. This creates the seasoning bond. Every time you cook in the beginning you should try and use food with high fat content, like bacon or foods cooked with fat cause this will also strengthen the process in the beginning.
    If rust appears it has not been seasoned properly or needs reseasoning, or it has wore off from foods sticking to it and need to be reseasoned. When this happens wash thoroughly with hot water and a soft scrubbing pad (the plastic kind), dry quickly with a paper towel and reseason. (Cleaning while the pan is still hot makes cleanup so easy, but don't use a scouring pad, like brillo or a hard detergent, cause this is what causes breakdown in seasoning) She told me not to use detergent in general, but I use a minute amount of a light detergent, one that doesn't contain bleach or hard core antibacterials solutions, something like Ivory. I love them and wouldn't cook on anything else, you get real use to them, quickly.

    That's very interesting about using lard.

    I'm not quite sure what you mean by the following:
    Quote:

    Every time you cook in the beginning you should try and use food with high fat content, like bacon or foods cooked with fat cause this will also strengthen the process in the beginning.
    Most of my cast iron skillets are very old. Some of them have a build-up of something on the outside of them that looks kind of like iron itself that might have broken down in some way. I don't really know, it's just that it looks like that. This build-up is patchy and uneven. Could this build-up be due to seasoning. It's not that I'm suggesting that seasoning may be bad in some way, I just don't really know what the build-up stuff is. Thank you!
  • Oct 18, 2007, 10:36 PM
    Wondergirl
    No, the outside buildup is not seasoning. The inside should be smooth and shiny. Is it?
  • Oct 18, 2007, 10:38 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl
    No, the outside buildup is not seasoning. The inside should be smooth and shiny. Is it?

    The insides of them are smooth. But, they aren't shiny.
  • Oct 18, 2007, 10:41 PM
    Wondergirl
    Well, shiny not like aluminum steel-like shiny but have a patina.
  • Oct 18, 2007, 10:45 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl
    Well, shiny not like aluminum steel-like shiny but have a patina.

    I understand what you are saying. They aren't shiny at all. They are definitely dull on the inside,

    Do you suppose by any chance, that they are dead? :confused: :) I mean after all, the "light" appears to have gone out in their "eyes"!
  • Oct 18, 2007, 10:50 PM
    Wondergirl
    Sounds like it's time for the lard and for seasoning the inside of the pan.

    (Are you OK, Clough? Feeling a little spacey perhaps?)
  • Oct 18, 2007, 10:57 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl
    Sounds like it's time for the lard and for seasoning the inside of the pan.

    (Are you ok, Clough? Feeling a little spacey perhaps?)

    Why... do... you... ask?


    (lunga pausa)



    Do you know something that I don't? :eek:
  • Oct 18, 2007, 10:58 PM
    Wondergirl
    *whistling softly through my teeth*

    So how are you going to restore the patina to the inside of your cast iron frying pan?
  • Oct 18, 2007, 11:12 PM
    Clough
    Pour Maple syrup in them? :confused:

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