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  • Oct 1, 2007, 07:56 PM
    GAMMA729
    What is the diferrence between GAY or STRAIGHT
    This may sound odd or strange to others- My question above is all about the way straight people judge gay people. I have asked and asked , taken notes and have analyzed allot about this. Can some one tell me anything different from what everyone else thinks. Thanks:cool:
  • Oct 1, 2007, 08:00 PM
    JohnSnownw
    I don't have any idea what others think, however, I couldn't care less about someone's persuasion. I don't think anything. If someone is gay, fine with me.
  • Oct 1, 2007, 08:02 PM
    nauticalstar420
    Not all straight people judge gay people. My belief is, no matter what your sexual orientation is, you are human just like everyone else. No one deserves to be judged based on their preferences, sexual or otherwise.
  • Oct 1, 2007, 08:25 PM
    GAMMA729
    Thanks for the answer
  • Oct 1, 2007, 08:26 PM
    nauticalstar420
    You're very welcome :)
  • Oct 1, 2007, 08:34 PM
    KISS
    I learned in Human Sexuality that people are born in a continum of sexual preference from pure straight to pure gay and bi in the middle. Some may require sexual reassignment surgery. Gay and Straight are too black and white. Also your chromosomes and your external appearance can be different. You can be born with both sets of external organs.
    It's not that simple.
  • Oct 1, 2007, 10:36 PM
    inthebox
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GAMMA729
    This may sound odd or strange to others- My question above is all about the way straight people judge gay people. I have asked and asked , taken notes and have analyzed allot about this. Can some one tell me anything different from what everyone else thinks. Thanks:cool:

    Yeah and the way gay people think that all straight people judge them.


    Really, I judge everybody, I'm human. Tall / short, fat / skinny , goodlooking / ugly , by the color of their skin, their religion or lack of it, by the clothes they wear, how old they appear, their accent, the content or lack of in their speech, if they smell, smoke or have teeth, by the vehicle they drive, what party they vote for, by their sexual orientation... whatever... equal opportunity for all...

    Hope this helps
  • Oct 1, 2007, 11:12 PM
    americangayboy
    I think one thing that differentiates gay men and straight men is their views on sex. Gay men are far more casual about sex than straight men. Also, there is a level of mutual respect in the gay dating scene while I have witnessed (keep in mind that this is anecdotal evidence) that straight men are very disrespectful to women. What I mean by that is that many straight men act like they've accomplished something when they have sex, as though they've out-foxed a woman.

    To KeepItSimple: sexual orientation and gender identity are separate variables. The gay-straight continuum has nothing to do with gender reassignment surgery.

    Unless you support full marriage and family rights for GLBT persons, inthebox, you do unfairly judge our community. That's just the way it is. I welcome your best effort to prove me wrong about the majority of the straight community (I mean actions in the straight community, not a fight between you and me).
  • Oct 2, 2007, 05:19 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GAMMA729
    This may sound odd or strange to others- My question above is all about the way straight people judge gay people. I have asked and asked , taken notes and have analyzed allot about this. Can some one tell me anything different from what everyone else thinks. Thanks:cool:

    I for one don't care what Gay people do in private. As a straight person I only object when you have those that feel the need to throw their "gayness" in your face. And to be clear on my sensitivity on that topic that I do not believe the vast majority of gay people engage in that behavior.

    I for one very strongly disagree on gay marriage. Just as I disagree with polygamy.
  • Oct 2, 2007, 07:48 AM
    americangayboy
    Smoothy, your dislike of gay marriage is irrational and uneducated. I don't want to argue with you again, but I think you need to reevaluate your views here. What is it that scares you about gay marriage? What harm could it possibly do? Please support your answers with fact, because saying that it's a "moral" disagreement doesn't cut it. That will just open up more questions: who says it's immoral? Why should we honor that moral judgement but not that which supports marriage equality? Etc.
  • Oct 2, 2007, 08:08 AM
    smoothy
    Do we need to go into this yet again... You are not going to change my mind on this issue for a variety of reasons, And I'm not alone in thinking that way. Do whatever you want in private but making a mockery of the institution of marriage isn't going to win anyone's hearts.

    And yeah, there are more than enough straight people that do that. The current poster child being Britney Spears.
  • Oct 2, 2007, 08:34 AM
    americangayboy
    I just think it's necessary to explain yourself when you have an illogical, possibly hateful opinion. I don't care if I change your mind. I just want you to actually think about why you have this opinion and have it scrutinized by others

    As far as making a mockery of marriage, what the hell? How is two people who love each other getting married a mockery of the institution of marriage? You really don't have a leg to stand on here unless you explain your comments.
  • Oct 2, 2007, 08:50 AM
    smoothy
    Really, you have less justification to that than the Islamic community demanding we invoke Sharia forcing everyone else to accept it because that's what they want.

    Marriage is, always was, and always should be a union between a man and a woman. Period end of story.

    I don't support NMBLA just because they think they should be able to do it, I don't support Incest, Polygamy or Bestiality either for the very same reasons.

    Its not moral, its not acceptable and its not sanctioned by the church, and the fact it's a mockery of the institution or marriage. And To be clear on that I think divorce should be far harder to get as well. Then people like Brittany Spears and other people into serial marriages might take it a bit more seriously as well.
  • Oct 2, 2007, 09:17 AM
    Synnen
    For right now, this is a discussion about the differences between being gay and being straight.

    If it degenerates into a discussion about gay marriage, I will close this thread.

    Please take THAT issue to member discussions, as it has nothing to do with answering the current question.
  • Oct 2, 2007, 09:21 AM
    GlindaofOz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GAMMA729
    This may sound odd or strange to others- My question above is all about the way straight people judge gay people. I have asked and asked , taken notes and have analyzed allot about this. Can some one tell me anything different from what everyone else thinks. Thanks:cool:

    As others have stated I really do not judge someone on being gay or straight. As long as a relationship is between two consenting adults its really no ones business.
  • Oct 2, 2007, 09:33 AM
    americangayboy
    I didn't realize that raping children or animals was the same as two adults of the same sex in a committed relationship wanting the legal rights of opposite sex couples. Also, I'm 100% certain that gay sex doesn't lead to inbred offspring who have a high risk of genetic disorders and mental retardation. Oh well, I guess it's because I look at facts not story books.

    Your argument that marriage always was, is, and should be between opposite sex couples isn't very strong. Marriage, just like everything else, is dynamic. Polygamy, for example, has been very common throughout history and is still common in several areas of the world. Who says marriage always should be between one man and one woman? You? Who made you the boss?

    Because gay marriage is unharmful, there is no good reason to prevent it. Once again, I ask that you tell me how gay marriage will harm society. Are your beliefs based on research or prejudice?
  • Oct 2, 2007, 09:38 AM
    americangayboy
    Sorry, I didn't read synnen's post before I posted. I would like to say that this is a logical progression of the conversation. The OP's question dealt with more than behavioral differences, and I think a conversation between a gay man for gay marriage and a straight man against gay marriage can highlight many issues from equality, to uses of scientific inquiry in regards to sex.
  • Oct 2, 2007, 09:38 AM
    smoothy
    You don't grasp what Synnen said do you?
  • Oct 2, 2007, 09:54 AM
    smoothy
    Its simple... The majority has an opinion on morality... what you advocate is immoral as the other immoral acts I stated. One is not better than the other because its your agenda to push.

    Straight people do very much judge people with that sort of attitude because most people find it highly offensive on moral as well as other grounds.

    However as it applies to the gay people who don't insist on forcing immorality down others throats your average straight person would judge them on their actions and behavior just as anyone else is judged.

    I will no sooner accept that agenda than I would accept Sharia forced upon me in this country.


    In short... if you want accepted by straight people conform to the standards of public behavior of that community, deviate from that just as any other group (religious or otherwise) has found and there is a price to pay.

    Behind closed doors most people don't care what you do within reason... but in public you are judged as anyone else is by your appearance and behavior.

    Present yourself as an average Joe... very few people will persecute you (there are always a few, on either side that tend to be extremists), however run around in leather chaps and a pink TuTu with an exaggerated lilt to your voice and you suddenly find most people start thinking about lynching, most however will just treat you like you have a contagious disease rather than act out on their thoughts.


    But mostly the difference between gay and straight is which gender you chose to partner with. How you present yourself in public is how you are viewed. The two are not related unless you chose to make them so.

    I'll say that the differences will vary as much between people in either group as that you can't make blanket assumptions on either group. Every person will have their own ideas. Some chose, others feel its natural to them. Same as why some guys like Asians, others like blonde's.
  • Oct 2, 2007, 09:57 AM
    americangayboy
    Once again you fail to answer my questions.

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