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  • Sep 21, 2007, 05:53 PM
    ardenb37
    Broken flange
    I'm frustrated in Florida. I had a guy come to my home and he pulled up the tiolet. We live in an old home built on a slab. We have the usual cast iron pipe in the floor. When he pulled the toilet up it had a lead poured flange. He chiseled it out and now I have a hole chisled in the floor around my pipe and no flange. Guess what he has not been back to finish the job and I am seveerely limited on funds. Can I fix this myself? I think if I can find the right size flange to fit over the pipe I can cement it in and install the new tiolet. Is this correct? Can anyone shed some light on this for me. Thanks
  • Sep 21, 2007, 06:17 PM
    letmetellu
    There is a cast Iron flange that will slip over the pipe coming out of the floor. What makes this flange so unique is that it has a neoprene gasket that will tighten up against the pipe as you tighten three or four bolts that are in the flange. It is a very good way to replace the flange when needed, and is not real expensive some where around $25.
  • Sep 22, 2007, 06:03 AM
    speedball1
    Greetings from Sarasota. Letmetell gave you one option. Let me give you another. I was setting toilets before there were flanges or wax rings. The only purpose a flange has is to secure the bowl to the floor. It does not help the flush or prevent a leak. To set a toilet without a flange set the bowl over the opening and mark the spots on the floor where the closet bolts would be. On a tile floor drill a 1/4 " hole on each mark and install a plastic screw insert. Now purchase a set of screw type closet bolts and screw then into the inserts. On a wood floor they screw directly into the floor. You may now place the wax ring on the bowl aqnd install the toilet. Good luck, Tom
  • Sep 22, 2007, 04:06 PM
    ardenb37
    2nd frustrated flange in Florida
    As in my first question I asked about setting a new flange in place around an existing cast iron pipe out of the floor. I am in an old home on a slab. They had poured a lead flange. Well the plumber that started the job has not come back. He seems to have gotten most all of the lead flange out. So I will need to fix it myself. Or try to. As I was doing some more cleaning around the pipe I noticed that what ever was around the original pipe is very wet. Some of it looks like old grout and it is breaking up in chunks. Also as I checked under the vinyl that was put down there is still some old tile. As I was digging to even out the space for a reset the wetness goes a little under the original tile. I will let it dry out for a couple of days. Is this worse than it sounds? Do I need to break down and call in a professional. Money is tight. Can I fix this myself? Please help anyone.
    Thanks
    A
    Ps The first two suggestions are great but I'm afraid I might have a worse problem.
  • Sep 22, 2007, 04:31 PM
    speedball1
    Chill out! So you had a leak and moisture got down to the subfloor. Not to worry as long as the bowl will cover the opening. Let it dry out and follow one of the two options you were given. When you decide click on back and one of us will walk you through the process. Rewgards, Tom
  • Sep 22, 2007, 06:11 PM
    letmetellu
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ardenb37
    As in my first question I asked about setting a new flange in place around an existing cast iron pipe out of the floor. I am in an old home on a slab. They had poured a lead flange. Well the plumber that started the job has not come back. He seems to have gotten most all of the lead flange out. So I will need to fix it myself. Or try to. As I was doing some more cleaning around the pipe I noticed that what ever was around the original pipe is very wet. Some of it looks like old grout and it is breaking up in chunks. Also as I checked under the vinyl that was put down there is still some old tile. As I was digging to even out the space for a reset the wetness goes a little under the original tile. I will let it dry out for a couple of days. Is this worse than it sounds? Do I need to break down and call in a professional. Money is tight. Can I fix this myself? Please help anyone.
    Thanks
    A
    Ps The first two suggestions are great but I'm afraid I might have a worse problem.

    Many years ago before wax rings they used sponge rubber rings and if they didn't use that they used plumbers putty to make the ring out of, I believe that is what you found under your commode. This being deteriorate like it was is probably why the floor and tile was wet. I suggest you let the floor dry for a couple of days then install the new flange that I told you about before.
  • Sep 23, 2007, 11:14 AM
    drave15
    Comment on speedball1's post
    Best of all simple answers-it makes sense

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