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  • Sep 13, 2007, 10:58 AM
    geographymatt
    Did god create the Earth or the universe?
    And why is god assumed to have a human form - is this so that it helps us to relate to him more easily. Otherwise I don't understand why if god created the universe be would happen to be human, rather than any of the other potentially millions of lifeforms which exist across the universe.
  • Sep 13, 2007, 11:06 AM
    mountain_man
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by geographymatt
    and why is god assumed to have a human form - is this so that it helps us to relate to him more easily. Otherwise I don't understand why if god created the universe be would happen to be human, rather than any of the other potentially millions of lifeforms which exist across the universe.


    God created the heavens and the earth so yes both. God also created man in His likeness. God created everything for His glory so He is who He is. All of the references are for the book of Genesis for your reference
  • Sep 13, 2007, 09:24 PM
    fallen2grace
    Both:
    "In the begining God created the heavens and the Earth." Genesis 1:1

    The universe is part of the earth.

    God didn't essentially make himself in human form. Jesus was his son. He was sent to die for our sins.

    "She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, becasue he will save his people from their sins" Mathew 1:21

    "He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High."
    Luke 1:32

    Does that help?
  • Sep 13, 2007, 11:48 PM
    iAMfromHuntersBar
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fallen2grace
    The universe is part of the earth.

    Erm... other way round actually! Lol! :D
  • Sep 14, 2007, 02:03 AM
    geographymatt
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fallen2grace
    Both:
    "In the begining God created the heavens and the Earth." Genesis 1:1

    The universe is part of the earth.

    God didnt essentially make himself in human form. Jesus was his son. He was sent to die for our sins.

    "She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, becasue he will save his people from their sins" Mathew 1:21

    "He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High."
    Luke 1:32

    Does that help?

    Yes, the most useful comment was that god made humans in his own form, which makes sense, not too sure about your universe being part of the Earth comment though.
  • Sep 14, 2007, 01:56 PM
    Choux
    Human beings have very limited intelligence today, and more so thousands of years ago! If you notice, the model for GodAlmighty is not only human, but a dictatorial father who focus' on punishing his children for misdeeds.

    "Our **father** who art in heaven....
    "Thou shalt not... (and so on)

    Einstein put a lot of thought into the idea of God. (His idea was not at all like GodAlmighty) You might enjoy reading what Einstein's thoughts were. :)
  • Sep 14, 2007, 02:14 PM
    mountain_man
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Choux
    Human beings have very limited intelligence today, and more so thousands of years ago! If you notice, the model for GodAlmighty is not only human, but a dictatorial father who focus' on punishing his children for misdeeds.
    "Our **father** who art in heaven....
    "Thou shalt not.....(and so on)

    Einstein put a lot of thought into the idea of God. (His idea was not at all like GodAlmighty) You might enjoy reading what Einstein's thoughts were. :)


    Choux, could you please support your suggestion that God is... (empahsized above in bold)
  • Sep 14, 2007, 02:35 PM
    firmbeliever
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by geographymatt
    and why is god assumed to have a human form - is this so that it helps us to relate to him more easily. Otherwise I don't understand why if god created the universe be would happen to be human, rather than any of the other potentially millions of lifeforms which exist across the universe.

    God is not human in form,nor like any of the created beings.
  • Sep 14, 2007, 09:12 PM
    fallen2grace
    Comment on Choux's post
    God isn't sitting in Heven with a magnifiying glass and spiteing us for every bad thing we do. He forgives us for our sins if we repent.
  • Sep 15, 2007, 12:45 AM
    Capuchin
    Grace, those 2 things do not logically follow from each other. If I make a hat, and the hat is in my house, does that also mean I made the house? Of course not.
  • Sep 15, 2007, 11:24 AM
    fallen2grace
    Yeah your right. Ill just stick with he made everything >_<
  • Sep 16, 2007, 05:23 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by geographymatt
    and why is god assumed to have a human form - is this so that it helps us to relate to him more easily. Otherwise I don't understand why if god created the universe be would happen to be human, rather than any of the other potentially millions of lifeforms which exist across the universe.

    We are told we are made in the image of God thus we assume he means that he also has a similar form. God took human form in the person of Jesus Christ and died to attone for our sins, thus it is reasonable we should represent him in human form since we have no evidence he carried out any similar act anywhereelse in the Universe, or that other than earthly lifeforms exist anywhereelse in the Universe.

    God created both the Earth and the Universe
  • Sep 20, 2007, 11:28 AM
    speakez66
    He made us in his image, with the power to speak a word and create, love, etc. created in our likeness not two arms and walk erect. We are more than our body.
  • Sep 21, 2007, 07:08 PM
    stuntmangt
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by geographymatt
    and why is god assumed to have a human form - is this so that it helps us to relate to him more easily. Otherwise I don't understand why if god created the universe be would happen to be human, rather than any of the other potentially millions of lifeforms which exist across the universe.

    He doesn't; He's just kind of portrayed in that image. You know, like an old guy with a really long beard sitting up in Heaven on His throne, watching us like little ants. It is also to help us relate to Him more easily; you're right. He did create the universe, and also, he decided to make us in His image, not some "potentially millions of other lifeforms."
  • Sep 23, 2007, 03:39 AM
    deist
    God has no known form. It is neither male nor female, nor anything in between. God is absolutely nothing like anything in the creation, It is utterly incomprehensible to humans. The God made us in his image thing is an anthropomorphic egocentric thing. If apes could think on a level with humans their view of God would be an apelike being like they have on Planet of the apes. Similarly with dogs if they could think on our level, or any other animal.
  • Oct 31, 2007, 03:23 PM
    silentrascal
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by geographymatt
    and why is god assumed to have a human form - is this so that it helps us to relate to him more easily. Otherwise I don't understand why if god created the universe be would happen to be human, rather than any of the other potentially millions of lifeforms which exist across the universe.

    In actuality, God created his Son, Jesus. Through the Bible, specifically in the book of Colossians the 1st chapter, we are told that Jesus is the means by which all things apart from himself (and his father) came into existence. Clearly, God empowered Jesus with the ability of creation. Ultimately, however, the creative power came from God, and thus God is rightly attributed as the Creator and Maker of all things, including heaven and earth.
  • Oct 31, 2007, 04:06 PM
    savedsinner7
    God created everything in the first six days. We are created in His image, which means we are capable of holding the same characteristics He has, Love, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Gentleness, Self-Control, Joy. We have a fallen nature from sin which keeps us from these attributes unless we are redeemed.

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