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  • Aug 2, 2007, 12:46 PM
    mkuze
    Applying for portuguese nationality through blood ties
    My father was born in funchal madeira but immigrated to south africa. I was born in south africa but now live in spain. I would like to apply for portuguese nationality. How do I do that.:confused:
  • Nov 23, 2007, 02:10 PM
    Lisbon Rose
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mkuze
    my father was born in funchal madeira but immigrated to south africa. i was born in south africa but now live in spain. i would like to apply for portuguese nationality. how do i do that.:confused:

    I sure hope you have been doing your homework because this question has answers available everywhere. My father was born in Funchal and I just received my Portuguese Identity card and passport within 40 days of my initial application. Step 1. call the registo in Funchal. You need to know the fregusia where he was born. If your dad is still alive have him call and order a fresh copy of his birth record. While you are awaiting the arrival of that have your birth certificate and your mothers birth certificates translated into Portuguese by an official translator. Then have the translations notarized in your nearest Portuguese consulate or embassy. Have your original birth certificates notarized at the consulate that has jurisdiction in the area of your births. For example, I was born in California. So I had my birth certificate notarized at the San Francisco consulate. My mother was born in Washington Dc so her birth certificate was notarized in the Embassy in DC. Once you have all the birth certificates translated and properly notarized, make an appointment with the consulate worker in your area of jurisdiction. My area was New York City. Take your ID and proof of your residency in the jurisdiction. The form takes 10 minutes to fill out. The charge is the equivalent of 75euro. The consulate sends it to the Registo Centrais in Lisbon. Once it is received it takes them about one month to produce your new Portuguese birth registration. I was actually in Lisbon and picked up the ID, took it to the ID processing office in Arriero and I got my card in a few hours. The next day I went to the Governo Civil in the Chiado neighborhood and I had my passport in 48 hours. I can give you all addresses and phone numbers if you want.
  • Nov 23, 2007, 02:15 PM
    Lisbon Rose
    I see you live in Spain. Order your birth certificates from South Africa. Have a friend send them to the Portuguese consulate nearest your birthplace for notarization. Have your official translations done in Spain and notarized at the consulate nearest the translator. Use the nearest Portuguese consulate in Spain to make your application. After you know it has been received in Lisbon call the registo Civil in Lisbon to find out if they have prepared your certificate. Take a trip to Lisbon and you can have everything done in about 3 days after you get your Portuguese birth registration.
  • Jan 12, 2009, 05:49 AM
    nmartins7
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lisbon Rose View Post
    I sure hope you have been doing your homework because this question has answers available everywhere. My father was born in Funchal and I just received my Portuguese Identity card and passport within 40 days of my initial application. Step 1. call the registo in Funchal. You need to know the fregusia where he was born. if your dad is still alive have him call and order a fresh copy of his birth record. While you are awaiting the arrival of that have your birth certificate and your mothers birth certificates translated into Portuguese by an official translator. Then have the translations notarized in your nearest Portuguese consulate or embassy. Have your original birth certificates notarized at the consulate that has jurisdiction in the area of your births. For example, I was born in California. so I had my birth certificate notarized at the San Francisco consulate. My mother was born in Washington Dc so her birth certificate was notarized in the Embassy in DC. Once you have all the birth certificates translated and properly notarized, make an appointment with the consulate worker in your area of jurisdiction. My area was New York City. Take your ID and proof of your residency in the jurisdiction. The form takes 10 minutes to fill out. The charge is the equivalent of 75euro. The consulate sends it to the Registo Centrais in Lisbon. Once it is received it takes them about one month to produce your new Portuguese birth registration. I was actually in Lisbon and picked up the ID, took it to the ID processing office in Arriero and I got my card in a few hours. The next day I went to the Governo Civil in the Chiado neighborhood and I had my passport in 48 hours. I can give you all addresses and phone numbers if you want.

    Hello Lisbon Rose, I finished getting all of my birth certificates translated and sent to Lisbon through the New York consulate and I just received that I am now a citizen of Portugal but now I have to go to Portugal to get my ID card and passport, do you still have those numbers of the places you went to in Portugal. It would be greatly appreciated!
    Thanks
    Nicole
  • Apr 14, 2009, 05:45 AM
    WiB

    nmartins7, if you speak Portuguese, you can find all the necessary information here:

    Página Inicial da Loja do Cidadão
  • Nov 2, 2009, 10:30 PM
    2tgal
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lisbon Rose View Post
    I see you live in Spain. Order your birth certificates from South Africa. Have a friend send them to the Portuguese consulate nearest your birthplace for notarization. Have your official translations done in Spain and notarized at the consulate nearest the translator. Use the nearest Portuguese consulate in Spain to make your application. After you know it has been received in Lisbon call the registo Civil in Lisbon to find out if they have prepared your certificate. Take a trip to Lisbon and you can have everything done in about 3 days after you get your Portuguese birth registration.

    Dear lisbon Rose
    I live in singapore and registered all the necessary documents with the embassy in thailand who have o course sent it to crc in lisboa. I have no news from them as yet on the status every time I enquire with the embassy they ay they are awaiting the news.
    Its almost a year how long does it take to register my birth in portugal
    Could you advise me on how I can speed up the process I will be visitng family for christmas this dec and maybe could personally try to do it there. Id greatly appreciate some info from you
    I have corresponded with crc but have no clear answers from them is there a way to find out online the status
    Really appreciate if you could help
    Thanks
    2t gal
  • Nov 6, 2009, 01:16 AM
    Maria-Therese
    Hi
    I am a South African with a Portuguese Grandfather,(born in Madiera, now deceased) my mother, his daughter, was born in South Africa. Am I eligible to apply for an ancestral passport. If yes, how do I apply? My cousin recently travelled to Madiera to meet relatives and renew connections there, so I do have some documentation, etc.
    Maria-Therese
  • Dec 13, 2009, 04:53 AM
    LostGuyinLove
    I'm in a similar situation as the OP
    I live in the UK but was born in South Africa, parents were both born in Funchal and emigrated to South Africa, but have since deceased.
    I tried contacting home affairs in South Afica for my birth certificate but they cannot find it and basically say that I don't exist.

    What do I do ?
  • Oct 12, 2011, 12:02 AM
    ShellyDAgrella
    I have the same question as Maria-Theresa, my grandfather was born there, my father was born in South Africa and so was I.. And if I am eligible, what documentation is needed?
  • Oct 12, 2011, 02:16 AM
    riorose
    Hello everyone. I only today received notification of all of these emails. I will try to respond to all. If your mother or father was born in Portugal or Madiera or the Azores there is no problem at all. Just follow the routes and be persistent. Keep in touch with your consulate worker frequently and then follow up in Lisbon after your embassy says they sent something. It is like playing tennis.If you are lucky you can establish residence in the New York or Washington DC regions and use those consulate workers. Some are rude but they work hard. No one does anything unless you call and ask what the last step taken was. Those of you who only have grandparents born in Portugal, You must process your non-portugal born parent before you can process yours. That takes time, 5 years in the case of my mother but that was because she was born at home and only had a baptismal certificate in 1924. We had to create a delayed registration of birth for her.
  • Oct 12, 2011, 02:23 AM
    riorose
    Those of you born in Asian Territories, god help you. It has been made very complicated because in the past there was much falsification of documents and the Portuguese officials are suspicious of Goan, Chinese etc applications. Get a Portuguese speaker friend to help you. In some cases applications had to be made by a certain date and if you missed it, game over for you. Also, because of the financial crisies in Portugal salaries have been cut back and the workers have become less productive, Ha ha. Funny how lazy people can get when their salaries are cut and taxes go higher.
  • Oct 23, 2011, 08:13 PM
    sultann
    Hi,I wish to know if registering ones birth in CRC in Lisboa automatically makes one a portuguese citizen.
    My father has just registered his birth and my brother intends doing so now.But they are Indian citizens and India does not allow dual nationality in the proper sense.as such technically they automatically lose their indian citizenship once they voluntarily accquire foreign citizenship.
    So is there a formal step wherein one aactually applies for Port citizenship which they can avoid doing and yet just register their births and keep the option open for them to apply for the same when they are ready?
    Thanks.
  • Oct 23, 2011, 08:15 PM
    sultann
    Is it absolutely necessary to go to lisboa to pick up ones cartao and passport or can one pick it up in the country one is residing in?
    Also if you have the cartao can u then apply for your passport at any portuguese consulate in the world?
  • Oct 25, 2011, 05:25 AM
    WiB
    sultann, no
    You cannot register your birth in Portugal if you are not a Portuguese sitizen
    Only after acquiring a Portuguese citizenship your birth will be registered (authomatically)
  • Oct 25, 2011, 05:26 AM
    WiB
    sultann, no
    You cannot register your birth in Portugal if you are not a Portuguese sitizen
    Only after acquiring a Portuguese citizenship your birth will be registered (authomatically)

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