Hi all,

Do you believe in fate?
Does everything that happens are already written and one has to pass them as 'All for good only'?
Just wanted to know your views on this topic.

My view is that we are not determined by fate.We have choice and free will .

I believe the principle of free will to predetermine events; so in that sense the fate of an individual is in part their, and others own doing.

IN the sense that individuals don't escape from the indoctrination and socialization of their childhood when they are helpless, I guess I see the strong influence of "fate". Usually a person continues on as indoctrinated and does not put in place new values, opinions and activities or rebels which is a matter of fate, in my opinion.

We control our "fate." Whether we are aware of it or not. When our fate collides with some one else's fate, we put ourselves there and so did they by the long chain of choices we all make.

I do not believe in free-will. So, I suppose if you are talking about the "determinist" idea of fate, then yes.

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Originally Posted by JohnSnownw

I do not believe in free-will. So, I suppose if you are talking about the "determinist" idea of fate, then yes.

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The very fact that you are at liberty to believe it or reject it proves you have choice.

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Originally Posted by Dark_crow

The very fact that you are at liberty to believe it or reject it proves you have choice.

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No, that is in fact untrue.

Determinism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fate is a funny thing...

I think fate can conspire to put you in a certain place at a certain time, but if you haven't made the correct choices in life required to deal with that situation, your fate is simply wasted.

I believe in fate, but to a certain extent.....

If you think about it, everyone's life will only happen one way in the end. Do I believe that some magical god wrote our fates though? No.

P.S. You know what they say, the first decision you make is usually the correct one. Never beat yourself up over a decision you made just because the situation you were in didn't work for you. Your life is a weave of all of your best decisions.

Well, there's my two cents:)

I believe in free will. Robert Frost did too --

The Road Not Taken

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;

Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,

And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

I believe in free will. Robert Frost did too --

The Road Not Taken

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;

Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,

And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

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I love this poem,

I agree with you, there is free will and it is up to us take the right path.
But what happens on that path is destiny.
The choices we personally make is free will, but each incident we face is destiny.

Do I confuse you?

I believe in free will and fate
God said he knew you before you were even conceived and even before the foundations of the universe. For him to be an all knowing God from the beginning of time to the end he would have to have known everything about you and your choices. I see it as he already saw the movie and is on rerun. He says he knows the number of hairs on our head (and that constantly changes_ I have known a few of them. They were the ones that liked sitting around intellectualizing and contemplating everything. Try going to the bar or the hood and your stats on my bubble will change )
But we have the free will and we do make our choices.
Free will and fate co existing are evident in that how often something tells us don't do something and we do it anyway (free will) and then fate happens and we try to turn it around to our favor but it is too late and happens anyway.

Fate and choice are not opposite forces to each other... I believe that fate does play a role in whether one has a choice at all!

Fate can determine what we are born in. Fate can determine what arises to meet us in live. But how we choose to live our lifes, to meet those daily decisions in life, that is something that is not predetermined

Fate can determine what we are born in. Fate can determine what arises to meet us in live. But how we choose to live our lifes, to meet those daily decisions in life, that is something that is not predetermined

Fate is just what we do not know is going to show up, which is everything, fate is basically what we can't control

No I Do Not Believe In Fate, Think About When Tragic Events Happened.. a 3 Year Old Was Hit By A Car Was It Faith That Put That Girl And The Car There , When A Rape Occurs Can The Criminal Say That It Was Fate And He Had No Crontrol

Free will & fate have always clashed.
The idea of a pre-determined destiny contradicts free will and vice-versa

If all events were predetermined all our beliefs would be predetermined.
There would be no guarantee that any of our beliefs are true because they would depend on past events like what we had for breakfast! So the belief that all events are predetermined is self-destructive and must be false...