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  • Jul 12, 2007, 11:39 AM
    timd157
    Replacement battery pack
    Please can you advise me what I need to solve this problem:
    I have a Racal Dust filter mask I use in my woodturning. It is a simple motor in a mask that blows a stream of fresh air through a filter. The product is no longer made but is still very serviceable but the rechargeable battery pack needs replacing.
    The only information I have is as follows:
    Racal product. Charger Input 240v 50 Hz Output 4.2v 230mA .96VA
    The battery pack contains 3 X 5/4 Nicad rechargeable batteries of a size no longer obtainable ( my local branch Maplin's has searched for me) and it ran for 4 hrs.

    There was an 8 hour offboard rechargeable battery pack available once, which had 3X 1/2D Nicad cells.

    I want to make an 8 hour rechargeable battery pack connected by a lead to the mask which contains the motor. The connections are not a problem, I can change them as needed. Can I use the same charger?

    Hope you can help. My local Maplins said they thought they could but were too busy when I went there.
  • Jul 14, 2007, 05:36 AM
    tkrussell
    The critical issue with a battery or pack is what the ampere-hour is rated. First, the voltage rating of a charger needs to be approximately 10% high than the voltage rating of the battery. Any charger of the proper voltage will charge a battery, however, the amp output of the charger , if too small, will take a longer time to charge the battery.

    I found that the cell you have produces 2600 milli-Ampere-hour, and using a charger with 230 mA output it will take over 13 hours to charge the battery. If you can get a 500 mA charger, for example, the battery will charge in 6 hours.

    So, the charger you have will charge the battery pack, but at the sacrifice of time.
  • Jul 14, 2007, 10:56 AM
    timd157
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by timd157
    Please can you advise me what I need to solve this problem:
    I have a Racal Dust filter mask I use in my woodturning. It is a simple motor in a mask that blows a stream of fresh air through a filter. The product is no longer made but is still very serviceable but the rechargeable battery pack needs replacing.
    The only information I have is as follows:
    Racal product. Charger Input 240v 50 Hz Output 4.2v 230mA .96VA
    The battery pack contains 3 X 5/4 Nicad rechargeable batteries of a size no longer obtainable ( my local branch Maplin's has searched for me) and it ran for 4 hrs.

    There was an 8 hour offboard rechargeable battery pack available once, which had 3X 1/2D Nicad cells.

    I want to make an 8 hour rechargeable battery pack connected by a lead to the mask which contains the motor. The connections are not a problem, I can change them as needed. Can I use the same charger?

    Hope you can help. My local Maplins said they thought they could but were too busy when I went there.

    Thanks TKrussel for that
    But what do I need to make an 8 hour rechargeable battery pack?
    What sort of batteries and how many? Do I join them in series or parallel?
    TimD
  • Jul 14, 2007, 02:56 PM
    tkrussell
    What voltage and amperage do you need?
  • Jul 14, 2007, 03:23 PM
    labman
    ''which had 3X 1/2D Nicad cells.'' Bet if you can find the specs for 1/2 D cells they are electrically close to a C cell. Should be easy enough to find 3 of them and connect them up in series. Your charger should take twice as long to charge an 8 hour pack as a 4 hour one.
  • Jul 14, 2007, 06:35 PM
    Stratmando
    Any amount of batteries, so long as it is 3.6 volts, or 3 cells. 1.2 volt per cell X 3.
    You can do series and parallell, to increase capacity.

    Would something like this work:
    Sharp CL250 3.6 Volt NiCad Cordless Phone Battery at Lowcostbatteries.com
    Like above, make sure charger can handle increased capacity.
    What are physical dimensions of batteries?

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