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  • Jul 11, 2007, 12:49 PM
    Hermansherman
    Accounting for Reverse Stock Split
    My company is doing a reverse stock split, no change on par value

    Originally we have 100 million shares at a par value of $.001 for an amount on General Ledger of $100,000.00

    We are doing 1 for 3 reverse split.

    I know that debit will need to go to Common Stock account, where will credit go? APIC??

    Dr. Common Stock $66,666.66
    Cr.? $66,666.66

    Thank you in advance,
    Herman
  • Jul 11, 2007, 01:38 PM
    richsaha2007
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hermansherman
    My company is doing a reverse stock split, no change on par value

    Originally we have 100 million shares at a par value of $.001 for an amount on General Ledger of $100,000.00

    We are doing 1 for 3 reverse split.

    I know that debit will need to go to Common Stock account, where will credit go? APIC???

    Dr. Common Stock $66,666.66
    Cr. ??????? $66,666.66

    Thank you in advance,
    Herman

    There are no journal entries for a stock split or a reverse stock split. The books will still be the same. What is required is a memorandum describing the stock split. Since it is a reverse split, you decrease your number of shares and increase your stock price.

    100,000,000 shares / 3 = 33,333,333.33

    stock price: .001 * 3 = .003

    when you multiply 33,333,333.33 * .003 = 99,999.99 = 100,000.00

    Stock splits do not affect the books
  • Jul 11, 2007, 01:53 PM
    Hermansherman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by richsaha2007
    There are no journal entries for a stock split or a reverse stock split. The books will still be the same. What is required is a memorandum describing the stock split. Since it is a reverse split, you decrease your number of shares and increase your stock price.

    100,000,000 shares / 3 = 33,333,333.33

    stock price: .001 * 3 = .003

    when you multiply 33,333,333.33 * .003 = 99,999.99 = 100,000.00

    Stock splits do not affect the books


    Do not agree, if I do not make an entry then I will have 33,333,333 shares par value of .001 but the amount in the account will be $100,000.00
    I feel I have to make an entry within Shareholders Equity in order to have the correct par value stated with the shares.
  • Jul 11, 2007, 09:19 PM
    richsaha2007
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hermansherman
    Do not agree, if I do not make an entry then I will have 33,333,333 shares par value of .001 but the amount in the account will be $100,000.00
    I feel I have to make an entry within Shareholders Equity in order to have the correct par value stated with the shares.

    No journal entry is needed at all for a reverse stock split. The result is all the same. All you need is a memorandum to describe what you did. If you believe an entry is needed, please tell me. You can Google it, Yahoo it and it will be in my favor.
  • Jul 12, 2007, 06:03 AM
    Hermansherman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by richsaha2007
    No journal entry is needed at all for a reverse stock split. The result is all the same. All you need is a memorandum to describe what you did. If you believe an entry is needed, please tell me. You can google it, yahoo it and it will be in my favor.


    Rich,

    Thank you for taking the time to respond.

    Perhaps if I rephrase my question, you will see my dilemma
    One fact I would like to reiterate is that there is no change in par value with this reverse stock split, the par value remains unchanged is in all the legal documentation, notification to shareholders, etc.

    Pre-split if you look at my Balance Sheet you will see

    Common stock 100,000,000 shares par value $.001 $100,000

    If as you suggest, the reverse split happens and I make no entry, this is what my Balance sheet will look like:

    Common stock 33,333,333 shares par value $.001 $100,000

    Clearly this is a problem, as 33,333,333 * .001 does not equal $100,000

    That is why I think I need to put in an entry to reduce the Common Stock account to be $33,333.

    Your thoughts?
    Regards,
    Herman
  • Jul 12, 2007, 08:29 AM
    richsaha2007
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hermansherman
    Rich,

    Thank you for taking the time to respond.

    Perhaps if I rephrase my question, you will see my dilemma
    One fact I would like to reiterate is that there is no change in par value with this reverse stock split, the par value remains unchanged is in all the legal documentation, notification to shareholders, etc.

    Pre-split if you look at my Balance Sheet you will see

    Common stock 100,000,000 shares par value $.001 $100,000

    If as you suggest, the reverse split happens and I make no entry, this is what my Balance sheet will look like:

    Common stock 33,333,333 shares par value $.001 $100,000

    Clearly this is a problem, as 33,333,333 * .001 does not equal $100,000

    That is why I think I need to put in an entry to reduce the Common Stock account to be $33,333.

    Your thoughts?
    Regards,
    Herman


    I went to the SEC.GOV website to give you a definition of a reverse stock split. Reverse Stock Splits

    I have never heard of a reverse stock split where the price stays the same. The goal of a reverse stock split for companies is when they believe the price of their stock is too low to attract investors to buy their stock.
  • Jul 12, 2007, 12:47 PM
    Hermansherman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by richsaha2007
    I went to the SEC.GOV website to give you a definition of a reverse stock split. Reverse Stock Splits

    I have never heard of a reverse stock split where the price stays the same. The goal of a reverse stock split for companies is when they believe the price of their stock is too low to attract investors to buy their stock.


    You have no idea what you are talking about.
    What a joke.
    The reverse stock split will definitely increase the stock price.
    However the par value will remain unchanged.
    That is causing the accounting difficulty that I was seekint the help from an expert.
    You, my friend, are no expert as clearly you have no idea that I am talking about the par value and not the price of the stock.
    I would highly encourage you to study up more before you attempt to answer questions on this site.
  • May 2, 2012, 12:28 PM
    lhruska
    Okay lets go forward. A warrant holer exercises his warrant. He is getting 1,000 shares of stock for 1.00 per share. (these are post split numbers) The entry I make is:
    Common stock 1.00
    APIC 999.00
    Cash 1000.00

    Now my balance sheet shows:

    Common stock 100001.00

    A note to the fnancial statements says: 100 million shares pre split and 1,000 shares pot split??

    (10 to 1 reverse split)

    Meanwhile my cap table says total of 10,001,000 shares

    Makes no sense to me. I think I need to adjust my common stock account on the balance sheet equal my cap table

    What do you think?

    Lynn
  • May 3, 2012, 08:44 AM
    Hermansherman
    Lynn,

    Yes, you would definitely need to restate your common stock account on the balance sheet to adjust for the reverse stock split.
    So if you originally had 100 million shares presplit and you did a 1:10 reverse stock split, you would have 10 million shares post split. {I am not sure why you are going from 100 million shares on your cap table to 10 million shares to 1000 shares}. If you had 10 million shares presplit and you did a 1:10 reverese stock split, you would have 1 million shares post split.
    Hope this is helpful,
    Herman
  • May 3, 2012, 09:10 AM
    lhruska
    Yes very helpful. I knew I had to adjust the balance sheet as par value did not change.

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