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  • Jul 5, 2007, 07:14 AM
    Hermansherman
    Credit P&L or Inventory?
    In 2006, we committed to a vendor to make some product for us.
    We subsequently had to cancel the orders and paid the vendor a cancellation fee
    Dr P&L Cr Accts Payable this fee was then paid.

    In December, we had this vendor make some product for us and expected to be
    Billed for it.
    Dr. Inventory Cr. Accts Payable

    We then closed out the year 2006

    In 2007 our vendor nicely decided to not bill us for the inventory made in
    December, and to treat the costs to making the inventory as part of the
    Cancellation fee.

    What is the proper accounting here?
    Is it
    Dr. Accnts Payable cr. Inventory
    Note then that Inventory will be at 0 cost

    OR
    Is it
    Dr. Accts Payable cr. P&L

    Thank you in advance,
    Herman
  • Jul 5, 2007, 12:32 PM
    CaptainForest
    You would:
    Dr. AP
    Cr. Inventory.

    The numbers above will be to reverse your December entry.

    However, you then must apply your cancellation fee towards this. So…
    Dr. Inventory (for the amount of the cancellation fee that went towards this, so all I guess?)
    Cr. P/L (Expense) which you had set up for the cancellation fee that you paid.
  • Jul 5, 2007, 12:34 PM
    Hermansherman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CaptainForest
    You would:
    Dr. AP
    Cr. Inventory.

    The numbers above will be to reverse your December entry.

    However, you then must apply your cancellation fee towards this. So…
    Dr. Inventory (for the amount of the cancellation fee that went towards this, so all I guess?)
    Cr. P/L (Expense) which you had set up for the cancellation fee that you paid.


    Thank you for your response.
    Net of your entries is Dr. AP, Cr P&L, I will proceed

    Cheers
  • Jul 5, 2007, 02:47 PM
    CaptainForest
    The inventories would only cancel each other out if the December record price is equal to that of the cancellation fee that you paid.
  • Jul 6, 2007, 12:05 PM
    Hermansherman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CaptainForest
    The inventories would only cancel each other out if the December record price is equal to that of the cancellation fee that you paid.


    Captain,
    The more I think about this, the more circular it gets.
    If I go ahead with this entry, Dr> A/P, Cr P&L, I will now have inventory on my books for which I have not paid anything for, yet it will have a "cost" to it.
    This troubles me, am I thinking about this too much?
    Regards,
    Herman
  • Jul 6, 2007, 01:12 PM
    CaptainForest
    The inventory DOES have a cost.

    The cost is the value of the "cancellation fee" that you paid. Since all that money is going towards THIS purchase.
  • Jul 6, 2007, 01:35 PM
    Hermansherman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CaptainForest
    The inventory DOES have a cost.

    The cost is the value of the "cancellation fee" that you paid. Since all that money is going towards THIS purchase.


    I appreciate your patience, but now I do not follow you.
    Let me try again so you can see my conundrum

    September 2006
    Dr P&L account $300k cr AP $300k for cancellation fee for 3 separate runs of inventory that had to be cancelled
    The $300k was subsequently paid in October 2006


    December 2006
    Dr Inventory $100K cr Accrued Expenses $100k
    earlier I had written that the credit was to AP but we never actually received invoice.
    we expected to receive invoice but when we closed the books in December 2006 we had not received invoice so I just credited an accrual account


    June 2007
    Dr Accrued Expenses $100k cr P&L account $100k

    As you can see with this solution, my Inventory is now valued at a cost of $100K but as we know, I never really paid this amount. That part is making my head hurt.

    Alternatively, I could credit Inventory for the $100K, but then going forward my Inventory will be valued at $0.

    Again, appreciate your thoughts,
    Regards,
    Herman
  • Jul 8, 2007, 07:28 AM
    Hermansherman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hermansherman
    I appreciate your patience, but now I do not follow you.
    Let me try again so you can see my conundrum

    September 2006
    Dr P&L account $300k cr AP $300k for cancellation fee for 3 separate runs of inventory that had to be cancelled
    The $300k was subsequently paid in October 2006


    December 2006
    Dr Inventory $100K cr Accrued Expenses $100k
    earlier I had written that the credit was to AP but we never actually received invoice.
    we expected to receive invoice but when we closed the books in December 2006 we had not received invoice so I just credited an accrual account


    June 2007
    Dr Accrued Expenses $100k cr P&L account $100k

    As you can see with this solution, my Inventory is now valued at a cost of $100K but as we know, I never really paid this amount. That part is making my head hurt.

    Alternatively, I could credit Inventory for the $100K, but then going forward my Inventory will be valued at $0.

    Again, appreciate your thoughts,
    Regards,
    Herman


    Anyone?
  • Jul 8, 2007, 05:33 PM
    CaptainForest
    I am at a loss as to why you would credit an expense in December of 2006, but that is not the issue at hand.

    What you have is fine, keep the inventory at 100K

    While you didn't send them a cheque for the 100K, you send them a cheque from 300K last October. Part of that money (1/3) is now being reallocated back to you for this inventory.

    You will have to make an adjustment to decrease your 2006 expenses by 100,000 and increase your 2007 expense by 100,000 (although you have already done the latter)

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