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  • Jul 2, 2007, 02:33 PM
    pontiacman72
    Hunter Ceiling Fan Receiver 8 wire
    I'm looking to remove the receiver from my Hunter Fan. It has white & black going in but has white, black, grey,pink,orange,red,brown & yellow going out. Hunter will not help. Anyone have any ideas short of replacing the fan. Thanks
  • Jul 3, 2007, 11:58 AM
    ceilingfanrepair
    You're trying to remove it, to do what?

    Ceiling fan remote controls - help and FAQ- Ceiling Fans N More
  • Jul 3, 2007, 01:51 PM
    pontiacman72
    I want to elimiate the remote control and put in a wall switch. I know the white,black. Orange & brown are for the light (from the receiver) and the red, pink, gray & yellow are for the fan (from the receiver). My question is since there a four wires controlling the fan is it possible to hook up to 3 speed wall switch since I have only a netural & hot? Fan is a hunter chantilly #23547. Thanks
  • Jul 3, 2007, 06:47 PM
    ceilingfanrepair
    You usually cannot remove the receiver from a remote fan unless it has pullchains. The capacitor and other electronics are usually in the receiver.
  • Jul 11, 2007, 06:59 PM
    jeepguy_1980
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ceilingfanrepair
    You usually cannot remove the receiver from a remote fan unless it has pullchains. The capacitor and other electronics are usually in the receiver.


    I have the same configuration and would like to bypass the remote as well. You are correct when you say most of the electronics are in the receiver. However, I tested the unit with a multimeter and found the following with the fan set to high:

    Pink - Gray : 0V
    Pink - Red : 120V
    Pink to Yellow : 120V
    Gray - Red : 120V
    Gray - Yellow : 120V
    Pink - Light Neutral : 120V
    Gray - Light Neutral : 120V
    Red - Light Neutral :0V
    Yellow - Light Neutral : 0V

    Based on these voltages, it does not seem that the capacitors in the unit are inducing any sort of phase difference and I should be able to wire it up directly.


    So I wired the Pink and Gray both to the fan hot from the wall and the Red and Yellow to the fan neutral from the wall. However, I only measured 72 RPMs with this configuration. The rated RPM is 200.

    Would it be possible to wire it up with the receiver only to the fan and cap off the reciever's light outputs and use a dimmer switch to control the fan speed? The remote pressed after power has been applied to the unit to activate the fan.
  • Jul 11, 2007, 09:23 PM
    ceilingfanrepair
    Seeing as you're only getting 72RPMs, I would say no. Have you opened the receiver to see if any necessary capacitors are in it?
  • Jul 12, 2007, 08:23 AM
    jeepguy_1980
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ceilingfanrepair
    Seeing as you're only getting 72RPMs, I would say no. Have you opened the receiver to see if any necessary capacitors are in it?


    Yes, there are two capacitors. I had also wired it up using a capacitive dimmer switch, but the results were the same.
  • Jul 12, 2007, 11:17 PM
    ceilingfanrepair
    You can contact a Hunter tech and see if they have any options. I have none for your without seeing the receiver in front of me. BTW not safe to use a fan with a dimmer switch.
  • Sep 7, 2007, 08:16 PM
    jeepguy_1980
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pontiacman72
    I'm looking to remove the reciever from my Hunter Fan. It has white & black going in but has white, black, grey,pink,orange,red,brown & yellow going out. Hunter will not help. Anyone have any ideas short of replacing the fan. thanks

    It took me a while to post this because the part was on back order and just came in today. But I ordered a Hunter Fan/Light Wall Mount Control #27186, which is basically a remote that fits into a standard decorative light switch housing. It does include a receiver, but the remote will also control the receiver that is included with the Palermo fan.

    For my install, I still left one light switch to supply power to the unit and I use the Wall control just as a built in remote, even though it does have a very small switch at the bottom that serves the same function as my light switch. This left one set of unused wires in the wall, which I have capped off. But more importantly it prevents me from losing my remote and allows my house to function as if I still had two switches.

    One note about the Wall Control unit, it does not have the ability to reverse the fan direction and since there is not a chain on the ceiling fan itself, the remote must be kept, should you wish to change the fan direction.

    The Wall Control unit will not control the Palermo fan out of the box, you must open the remote that came with the fan and look at the jumpers. Set the Wall Control dip switches up for every pin that has a jumper and down for every pin that does not have a jumper.

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  • Sep 8, 2007, 01:28 PM
    ceilingfanrepair
    This is correct. You can use a RF wall control with the included receiver with the fan. Glad you got it working.
  • Sep 18, 2007, 11:09 AM
    palmierip
    Hi guys. New to this site and I could really use some help. I am in the same situation with the Hunter Palermo fan and the Hunter remote 27186. I purchased the new remote since the last one stopped working. First it was intermittently working and then just stopped.

    I have not idea how to connect this, since the remote only has black, blue and I believe a white wire (not at home), while my Palermo fan has white, black, red, black with a white line, gray, pink and yellow. I want everything to work from the remote (power, fan, lights, etc.) Please help me, since I now have no light in my kitchen for a week.

    Thanks
  • Sep 22, 2007, 02:23 PM
    ceilingfanrepair
    Hunter should be able to help. You tell them you need a new receiver, and they send you one.

    You CANNOT use a replacement receiver with less wires.

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  • Oct 15, 2013, 06:44 AM
    sonnytwins
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeepguy_1980 View Post

    So I wired the Pink and Gray both to the fan hot from the wall and the Red and Yellow to the fan neutral from the wall. However, I only measured 72 RPMs with this configuration. The rated RPM is 200.

    Just wanted to thank jeepguy_1980 for his information. I did what he said and my Hunter fan is now working without the receiver (both fan and light). It it using a special ceiling fan control switch (on the wall) that I bought at one of the big box hardware stores (I think it's a Lutron, it has a slider dimmer for the light and a 3 step slider for the fan speed). BUT, the problem is that it seems way too slow at the hi setting, I measured 68 RPM (don't know what the fan is rated at but it's got to be rated at higher than just 68 RPM). There is no pullchain control on the fan.
    I did not use any capacitors, just used wire nuts to connect the wires as jeepguy_1980 instructed. We'll see in a few months if motor burnout happens (but we rarely use the fan, so maybe it'll last many years).

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