Hey
Im having a great time with a girl the past few days, and we both have similar interest in each other. Now, what I need to know is. A) How do you slowly show a girl that you want to be more serious without giving her I'm the big wuss and folding for her every need? And B) What is the most memorable moment that you have ever experienced "EARLY" in a relationship? These two questions should solve the great girl turnoff of Mr. Wuss and Mr. Plain Guy. Thanks A lot. This should get interesting!


Carlin

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!! DON'T CALL HER EVERY DAY!! NO TEXT OT E-MAIL. KEEP COMMUNICATION SHORT ON THE PHONE 5 TO 10 MINUTES MAX. AND END THE CONVERSATION FIRST!! ALWAYS!!

BE LESS AVAILABLE!!

ONLY SEE ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK MAX!! LESS IS MORE IN THE BEGINNING!

MAKE HER COME TO YOU - MAKE HER REACH - MAKE HER WANT!! MAKE HER MISS YOU!!

LESS IS MORE FOR WOMAN!!

PLEASE DO THIS!! NO SMOTHERING!!

BE:

funny, confident, and mysterious
1.
Individuality, self reliance, independence


1. Never act apologetic, insecure, try to get approval, or like you're trying to impress.
2. Answer questions with questions that implicate her or get her to commit to something.
3. If she complains or doesn't like something, turn it up and give it back.
4. Never give a woman exactly what she asks for.
5. Always send mixed signals.
6. Use "Let's be friends." - Beat her to the punch! Useually that's her favorite line to use on you.
7. Be unpredictable. Keep mixing it up and changing your patterns.
8. Be distinctive/Don't be boring.
9. Send mixed messages.
10. Take two steps forward, then one step back
11. Never let the line go slack-always keep some tension
12. It's like playing poker, always raise and call her bluff
13. When you're in a Cocky & Funny 'role' that works, stick with it!
14. Lead and move forward confidently!
15. Never give a woman a direct answer, unless it's no.
16. Don't be a wimp.


Challenge: REAL MEN: They are not going to jump through hoops for a woman, and they are certainly not going to place any woman on a pedestal.
Confidence: How many successful and happy people do you know who don't have confidence?
Indifference: What do they care if a man or woman likes them or doesn't like them? What do they care if they get rejected? They already have happiness and success and therefore they conduct themselves with complete confidence and take rejection with ease; what's more, they're very unlikely to be rejected. He has a life of his own to live, it doesn't revolve around women.
Fun: A happy man knows how to have fun. He can be cocky and funny, and he knows how to have a good time.

The Value of the personal relationship to all things is that it creates intimacy and intimacy creates understanding and understanding creates love.
the needs for ATTENTION, UNDERSTANDING, ACCEPTANCE, APPRECIATION, and AFFECTION. By not acting desperate to get love in return, but by methodically being there for the One You Want over time they will come to emotionally depend on you. A great skill to seek to master is that of Reflective Listening. This alone will give you more power than you can ever imagine! Planned unpredictability, coupled with a sense of authority.
1. For example, show up when you say you will, but let her know you expect her to be there on time as well.
If you're out somewhere, suddenly say, "Hey, let's go somewhere else," and then go somewhere else--it really doesn't matter where.
Be teasingly funny with her--she should have the feeling that she'll never know what you're going to say next.
Playfully flirt with other women, not to make her jealous, but because that's "who you are"--a guy who's good with women..
Let her know of your disdain for the "jerk" or "rat" and why--she'll get it.
When you're able to master this skill of being a "predictably unpredictable good guy" who creates attraction for her wrapped around true strength, women will line up to be with you.
Why? Because there's darn few guys out there like that, and you've just become a rare commodity.

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Originally Posted by Wildcat21

1. Never act apologetic, insecure, try to get approval, or like you're trying to impress.
2. Answer questions with questions that implicate her or get her to commit to something.
3. If she complains or doesn't like something, turn it up and give it back.
4. Never give a woman exactly what she asks for.
5. Always send mixed signals.
6. Use "Let's be friends." - Beat her to the punch! Useually that's her favorite line to use on you.
7. Be unpredictable. Keep mixing it up and changing your patterns.
8. Be distinctive/Don't be boring.
9. Send mixed messages.
10. Take two steps forward, then one step back
11. Never let the line go slack-always keep some tension
12. It's like playing poker, always raise and call her bluff
13. When you're in a Cocky & Funny 'role' that works, stick with it!
14. Lead and move forward confidently!
15. Never give a woman a direct answer, unless it's no.
16. Don't be a wimp.

Challenge: REAL MEN: They are not going to jump through hoops for a woman, and they are certainly not going to place any woman on a pedestal.
Confidence: How many successful and happy people do you know who don't have confidence?
Indifference: What do they care if a man or woman likes them or doesn't like them? What do they care if they get rejected? They already have happiness and success and therefore they conduct themselves with complete confidence and take rejection with ease; what's more, they're very unlikely to be rejected. He has a life of his own to live, it doesn't revolve around women.
Fun: A happy man knows how to have fun. He can be cocky and funny, and he knows how to have a good time.

The Value of the personal relationship to all things is that it creates intimacy and intimacy creates understanding and understanding creates love.
the needs for ATTENTION, UNDERSTANDING, ACCEPTANCE, APPRECIATION, and AFFECTION. By not acting desperate to get love in return, but by methodically being there for the One You Want over time they will come to emotionally depend on you. A great skill to seek to master is that of Reflective Listening. This alone will give you more power than you can ever imagine! Planned unpredictability, coupled with a sense of authority.
1. For example, show up when you say you will, but let her know you expect her to be there on time as well.
If you're out somewhere, suddenly say, "Hey, let's go somewhere else," and then go somewhere else--it really doesn't matter where.
Be teasingly funny with her--she should have the feeling that she'll never know what you're going to say next.
Playfully flirt with other women, not to make her jealous, but because that's "who you are"--a guy who's good with women..
Let her know of your disdain for the "jerk" or "rat" and why--she'll get it.
When you're able to master this skill of being a "predictably unpredictable good guy" who creates attraction for her wrapped around true strength, women will line up to be with you.
Why? Because there's darn few guys out there like that, and you've just become a rare commodity.

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You got to love this dude!

Excellent advice... each day you get to learn something new from this guy!

Keep it up!

Excellent response.. Its a total cheat sheet! Thanks again!

Guys DON'T learn this stuff. You're not born with it. IT'S ALL WOMAN TALK ABOUT!!

We don't learn this stuff in school. LEARN IT!!

Just don't always be available. Leave her guessing.

Go to www.askmen.com

Go to www.doubleyourdating.com AND BUY David Deangelos book AND LEARN ABOUT WOMAN!! He is my Quam! Very sincere guy who cares about how men deal with woman.

Do you want a woman's perspective?if you are just starting smothering is of course out of the question... casual phone calls what you want to do is talk about meaningful things like what kind of person she is find out interests background family etc... not all at once of course but gradually... because the first thing a woman will say if you tell her you have feelings for her and you know nothing about her even if you have a wonderful time together is how can you have feelings for me and you don't even know me... whats her fav color where does she like to eat... but small things will help show her you want to see her on a more serious level... for example guy that I worked with was interested in me we talked laughed etc great chemistry... one day a customer gave me a hard time and later that day he came by with half a dozen red roses and said I hope your day gets better... nothing elseand he walked away before I could even say anything... needless to say that got my attention sounds stupid and cheesy but women like stupid ish like that... trust me I'm a woman I know... now I'm not saying do something like that but there are ways to hint to a woman that you want to be more serious without blowin it...

Thanks for the replies.
Things are going great with this girl. But one thing has come up? Its nothing serious, but when we are getting together, it's starting to be every night. I don't mind, cause I really like her, but I know from experience that you almost have to force yourself to be a little bit distant to gain that level of attraction. Your input is appreciated, especially WildCat.

Cheers
Carl

Don't smother this gal. Every day is too much - 3 months in and she will leave. You need your own life - she is part of your life. Make plans with friends - go to the gym. You won't be a challenge and she will leave.