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  • Oct 29, 2022, 07:14 AM
    jlisenbe
    The cat escapes the bag
    It has now become apparent that after John Fetterman's awful debate performance, the dems are going to at least partly acknowledge that it will be his wife who'll be the real senator should he win. Even Biden proclaimed, " (Gisele) is gonna be a great, great lady in the Senate." This after a Rolling Stone reporter called Gisele the "de facto candidate." Might add that GF has discovered that swimming in America is not merely racist, but VERY racist.
  • Oct 29, 2022, 10:57 AM
    tomder55
    why not ? they got away with it with Edith Wilson running the country after Woodrow Wilson's stroke.

    Quote:

    swimming in America is not merely racist, but VERY racist.
    What you never heard of white water rafting ?
  • Oct 29, 2022, 11:30 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    What you never heard of white water rafting ?
    Ooohhh. I never thought of that! Why is it we never hear of non-white water rafting??? (<:
  • Oct 29, 2022, 05:32 PM
    Wondergirl
    You two must have really mocked Stephen Hawking's observations and comments.
  • Oct 29, 2022, 05:48 PM
    jlisenbe
    "I have no sensible reply, so I'll resort to trying to change the subject."

    It won't work.
  • Oct 29, 2022, 06:30 PM
    Wondergirl
    The subject is Fetterman's "awful debate performance".
  • Oct 29, 2022, 06:54 PM
    jlisenbe
    And it was indeed awful just as Trumps first debate with Biden was awful. Now what that has to do with hawking is unclear.
  • Oct 29, 2022, 07:09 PM
    tomder55
    I don't understand the comparison .Hawking easily understood and processed words and thoughts and used technology to communicate complex thoughts . Hawking never had cognitive issues . Quite the opposite .He was a genius.

    Fetterman's stroke deprives him of those skills. Hopefully in the future he will regain those skills .
    Currently he does not have those skills due to his stroke and should not be elected to anything until he can.

    Shame on his handlers and his wife for permitting it . Shame on the compliant press who failed to honestly report it ;and attacked the one peer who had the integrity to report the truth .

    That doesn't surprise me at all. Not only did they hide his condition ;they also allowed him to get away with a false narrative of his accomplishments in Braddock ;the fact that throughout he career he has been a no show leader .
  • Oct 29, 2022, 08:03 PM
    jlisenbe
    What is disappointing is the fact that people who seem to have good sense are trying to find ways to defend this by using the "You hate disabled people" approach. By that reasoning, we should look for a comatose person to run.
  • Oct 29, 2022, 08:25 PM
    Wondergirl
    While aphasia and auditory processing disorders can make the speech of stroke sufferers difficult to understand, they do not imply cognitive impairments. Researchers shed light on aphasia and stroke recovery, reporting auditory processing symptoms as a result of stroke do not alter one’s intelligence, behavior, or other executive abilities.
    https://neurosciencenews.com/fetterm...ecovery-21751/
  • Oct 29, 2022, 08:31 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    While aphasia and auditory processing disorders can make the speech of stroke sufferers difficult to understand, they do not imply cognitive impairments
    They don't rule it out either, so how can you be sure he is mentally fit?

    The truth is, if this was a repub, you'd be all over them and declare him/her unfit for office. It certainly seems that you will defend a liberal dem practically to the death.
  • Oct 29, 2022, 08:43 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    They don't rule it out either, so how can you be sure he is mentally fit?

    This just happened in the Spring. He's under medical care. Recovery is supposed to be very possible.
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    The truth is, if this was a repub, you'd be all over them and declare him/her unfit for office. It certainly seems that you will defend a liberal dem practically to the death.
    How many strokes has Trump had so far?
  • Oct 29, 2022, 08:52 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    how can you be sure he is mentally fit?
    You did not answer this question.

    Trump?? Trump is sharp. I don't like a number of things about him, but I don't see how you can accuse him of mental deterioration. The way he speaks is light years ahead of Fetterman.

    Now Biden is a candidate for sure. Just yesterday he declared we have 54 states.
  • Oct 29, 2022, 09:52 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I don't understand the comparison ......... Hawking never had cognitive issues.... Fetterman's stroke deprives him of those skills.

    Wrong. It's been clearly stated that his cognitive skills are not affected. His "auditory processing" skills are the skills affected. The press reported it accurately.
  • Oct 30, 2022, 02:59 AM
    tomder55
    Bottom line His handlers and the compliant press insisted that Fetterman ;who suffered a life threatening stroke in May ,is recovering well and “has no work restrictions and can work full duty in public office”. They lied to the people of Pennsylvania and the nation.His ability to hear, understand, process information, and speak have been severely impacted by his stroke.

    From my perspective I am happy the Dems continue to run with Fetterman . Had they gone into the general election with Conner Lamb as their flag bearer this election would not be close. But he was too moderate for the new radical lefty progressive socialist Democrat party.
  • Oct 30, 2022, 06:49 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    .....socialist Democrat party.

    Please don't use the word "socialist" when you don't even know what it means. We've been over this ground before when you couldn't even explain its meaning.
  • Oct 30, 2022, 07:06 AM
    tomder55
    I did not bother
  • Oct 30, 2022, 09:21 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    His ability to hear, understand, process information, and speak have been severely impacted by his stroke.

    Not true. Please read the link I added in Post #10. As I said earlier, the same was true for Stephen Hawking because of ALS.
  • Oct 30, 2022, 10:49 AM
    tomder55
    I don't need a link . We all saw what the stoke has done to him . He is incapable at this time to serve as a Senator . But apologists are going to let him get away with claiming that the teleprompter device he was using malfunctioned .
  • Oct 30, 2022, 11:46 AM
    Wondergirl
    Oh my!!! Those "stokes"!!!

    Like Hawking, he can think, he just can't verbally communicate.

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