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some not so veiled insults not just for the US but for Australia, India, Taiwan, Japan, interesting they should use a Christian iconic painting to lampoon

so I see once again anything beyond your borders is of no interest

That is not the vision that came to my mind. This 1910 portrait is more fitting
The portrait of the Euro monarchs at the funeral of King Edward VII . In a few years the empires would commit fratricide . The G 7 once represented 70 % of the world's wealth . Today it is 40% .

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Ah yes but whose head could you put on which body to typify the current hegemony

Merkel ,Macron ,Quid ,Trudeau ,Boris Johnson ,Yoshihide , Draghi ,and the EU clowns that attend. Macron welcomed Quid back to the "club" . What is the club ? Well it is recognition of Quid's desire to bring America towards the Euro - welfare state .

we know who the leaders of the club are Tom, they are the same nine who attended and were lampooned by the Chinese. The US is far from the welfare state Tom, so no fear there. The last attempt ended in regime change, so more caution this time

Quid has proposed no less than 4 new permanent entitlements in the 5 months he has been in office . If all his wish list passed he would be well on his way to exceeding FDR and Johnson combined.

yes but he has yet to out do Obama and the health care initiative

Obamacare is a Fabian first step . The Dems have long desired Euro cradle to grave freebees .

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The myth of Democrats being radical socialists is nonsense. Socialism is against the private ownership of the means of production (capitalism). That seems to have escaped the Repub members who have embraced the far-right.

That is not the position of the Democratic Party, the Democrats in Congress, or of Biden, Harris, or even of Sanders. Many Republicans in Congress know better, but unfortunately they have to go along to please the extreme far-right Republican base because they need their votes to win primary elections.

What almost all Democrats advocate is what even conservative parties in the UK and European democracies advocate: a capitalist economy with proper regulation of business and social programs to provide healthcare, education, and economic security to their citizens. The Republican Party has no large counterpart in any other free, democratic, industrialized nation. It is an anomaly in modern politics, stuck in a time warp that conservative parties in other free democracies left in the early to mid twentieth century.

Today the Democratic Party is made up of a much broader coalition of political views than the Republican Party. For example, while the Democrats advocate healthcare coverage for all, there are differing policies on how to best achieve that. The Republicans have basically one position, repeal Obamacare.

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Oh come on it was a stumble, a kowtow to vested interests

partly true . The emperor made a Faustian deal with the insurance industry . However it was built to fail so that the Dems could introduce the next step ;so called universal health care . Yes it is very clever the industry you want out of the process to initially run it . Without mandates ,and with exchanges being poorly designed ,the insurance companies began leaving the exchanges ,and increasing rates .The headlines read insurance industry waging war .


The Dems know the mandate is unconstitutional . Without the mandate there is not enough funding for it . The emperor urged his party to campaign on blaming the Repubs . for the failure /partial repeal .

They are now poised to introduce the next step. They lie about it calling it "Medicare for all " . When in fact Medicare is an earned entitlement . What they really mean is 'Medicaid for all 'which is a government funded entity .
The next Fabian step is documented here .
Plan to Protect and Build on Obamacare | Joe Biden

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The myth of Democrats being radical socialists is nonsense. Socialism is against the private ownership of the means of production (capitalism).

What almost all Democrats advocate is what even conservative parties in the UK and European democracies advocate: a capitalist economy with proper regulation of business and social programs to provide healthcare, education, and economic security to their citizens. The Republican Party has no large counterpart in any other free, democratic, industrialized nation. It is an anomaly in modern politics, stuck in a time warp that conservative parties in other free democracies left in the early to mid twentieth century.
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Yes Tom I live in one such economy, and it didn't bring the economic disaster the conservatives in your nation thinks it would, rather it has reigned in the excesses of capitalism while allowing it to prosper. I agree that your nation appears to be stuck in a time warp

[QUOTE=tomder55;3870358]partly true . The emperor made a Faustian deal with the insurance industry . However it was built to fail so that the Dems could introduce the next step ;so called universal health care . Yes it is very clever the industry you want out of the process to initially run it . Without mandates ,and with exchanges being poorly designed ,the insurance companies began leaving the exchanges ,and increasing rates .The headlines read insurance industry waging war .[/QOUTE]

That's not even half true. The biggest impediment for health care is repubs refusing to expand medicaid and having half baked plans instead that results in closed hospital in mainly rural areas. The popularity of the ACA has grown steadily despite Repubs best shenanigans and court failures.

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The Dems know the mandate is unconstitutional . Without the mandate there is not enough funding for it . The emperor urged his party to campaign on blaming the Repubs . for the failure /partial repeal .

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Tell SCOTUS how they missed that and upheld the law for a 3rd time recently and Obama has been gone what 4/5 years now? The law survives!

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They are now poised to introduce the next step. They lie about it calling it "Medicare for all " . When in fact Medicare is an earned entitlement . What they really mean is 'Medicaid for all 'which is a government funded entity .
The next Fabian step is documented here .
Plan to Protect and Build on Obamacare | Joe Biden

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You may not like it but it's the next logical step in making us like every other civilized country in the friggin' world. You trying to be a nog head all your life?

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You may not like it but it's the next logical step in making us like every other civilized country in the friggin' world. You trying to be a nog head all your life?

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Yes but you don't always take the logical path

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Tell SCOTUS how they missed that

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Roberts created created his own version of language to invent a constitutional premise

The most recent case was decided on so called "standing " . BTW ,the biggest objection to Barrett was that she would be the vote to kill Obamacare .BUT she was part of the majority that voted against standing in the case .They did NOT rule on the constitutionality of the law.

who doesn't, Trump had his own version of language

As the so called final arbiters on what is constitutional law ,a Chief Justice changing the clear wording of the law to give it a rationale for legitimacy is a much bigger issue .

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As the so called final arbiters on what is constitutional law ,a Chief Justice changing the clear wording of the law to give it a rationale for legitimacy is a much bigger issue .

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What wording did Roberts change?

He changed "mandate " to "tax" . He changed Obamacare from the unconstitutional idea of forcing people to purchase health insurance or pay a penalty ,to a tax for not purchasing health insurance . There are plenty of taxes for behavior . Only one for not engaging in economic activity . In every other instance that is called a penalty except in the twisted logic of Chief Justice Roberts .