Was Jesus the true messiah? Why not, then who are you waiting for. Why then why do a lot of Jews deny it

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https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/judais...ly-175677.html

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Originally Posted by ineedhelpfast

was Jesus the true messiah?

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No.

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Originally Posted by ineedhelpfast

why not, then who are you waiting for.

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Both questions answered quite completely in other threads here. Scott mentioned one above, a quick search will reveal others.

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Originally Posted by ineedhelpfast

why then why do alot of Jews deny it

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Your question is based on an incorrect assumption. Your incorrect assumption is that J*sus is the true messiah. He is not. Therefore, Jews are not "denying" anything by noting he is not. Would you be 'denying' anything by saying "No" if someone asked you if the sky were green? Of course not, because the is indeed not green.

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Your question is based on an incorrect assumption. Your incorrect assumption is that J*sus is the true messiah. He is not

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In your opinion yes, He is not. But its not a fact.

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Originally Posted by sassyT

In your opinion yes, He is not. But its not a fact.

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Now that you suggest otherwise, this is helpful in demonstrating where Christianity's religious theology has departed from the elementary basics of Judaism. Christians, "sassyT," tend to view matters by a belief. Judaism regards all our actions, as substance. However, if you see the world as currently being in the messianic age, an age of peace, no war, no hunger, disease dissipating, government initiated Torah, then you have your faith based in Christianity and on unproven results from 2k years ago. But reality is that there is no reasonable consequence of those actions today. Isaiah 11:6 is not upon this world as it still awaits. For Judaism that's not an opinion, it's a fact. Jewish messianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

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Originally Posted by BABRAM

Now that you suggest otherwise, this is helpful in demonstrating where Christianity's religious theology has departed from the elementary basics of Judaism. Christians, "sassyT," tend to view matters by a belief. Judaism regards all our actions, as substance. However, if you see the world as currently being in the messianic age, an age of peace, no war, no hunger, disease dissipating, government initiated Torah, then you have your faith based in Christianity and on unproven results from 2k years ago. But reality is that there is no reasonable consequence of those actions today. Isaiah 11:6 is not upon this world as it still awaits. For Judaism that's not an opinion, it's a fact. Jewish messianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

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For Judaism it is fact and I respect that, but I am not a part of that religions so to me it is an opinion not a fact.

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Originally Posted by sassyT

For Judaism it is fact and i respect that, but i am not a part of that religions so to me it is an opinion not a fact.

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And that's OK with us that are Jewish. We don't actively seek converts. It's the quality vs quantity argument. BTW since you made it over to our board to give a opinion about a religion that you don't partake in, or know much about, you might as well learn something. In biblical Hebrew there really isn't a word for "religion." There is the word "dat," that means faith.

For those of the Jewish Faith, they do not see Jesus Christ as their Savior.
That is just it, I am not sure their exact stance, either that he may have never really existed or he was merely misguided in his belief or his followers mis understood him.

This is merely their teachings and belief. They have though their promices and blessings their own relationship with God.

I may disagree on teachings, but I truly respect their firm belief and the respect they give to others.

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Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck

for those of the Jewish Faith, they do not see Jesus Christ as thier Savior.
That is just it, I am not sure thier exact stance, either that he may have never really existed or he was merely misguided in his beleif or his followers mis understood him.

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All the stances you mentioned -- That he did not really exist (and is a composite fabrication of the inventors of religion of Xianity); that he was misguided (and a heretic and apostate who abandoned Judaism); or that he was a good Jew whose words became so wildly misunderstood by his followers that they led themselves away from Judaism -- are all valid views held by Jews and Judaism. There is no one, 'correct' view held by all Jews and Judaism about this topic, other than the fact that he was neither Moshiach nor G-d.