Not if Eric Holder has his way .

My Way News - Pot votes in 2 states challenge US drug war

Will the President reign in his Attorney General from forcing yet another showdown between the national government and the states over Federalism issues ? I expect not . Obama envisions himself in some ways like a later -day Richard Nixon... espcially in his constructing of an Imperial Presidency. .

Hello tom:

Interesting article. We await the feds.

excon

Are you going to be bitterly clinging to your guns when they come?

Hello again, Steve:

Chill out.. You lost. Get over it.

excon

You sound juts like the uniter-in-chief, Barack "I won" Obama.

We can always apply "don't ask don't tell" to pot like we did to gays can't we?

Some people make mountains out of mole hills. What this means is the local police won't be looking for pot unless they stumble on a plantation, the fed's can still chase the mules through those hills. Surely there are other instances in law where state law differs.

Hello again,

UPDATE. Today, it's LEGAL. Or is it? The state says yes. The feds say no. How am I to tell?

Uhhh, what was the question?

excon

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Hello again,

UPDATE. Today, it's LEGAL. Or is it? The state says yes. The feds say no. How am I to tell?

Uhhh, what was the question??

excon

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Maybe if you light up in the presence of local police they'll protect you from the feds.

Hello again, Steve:

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Maybe if you light up in the presence of local police they'll protect you from the feds.

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The best we've got is our two senators, NEITHER of which is doing a damn thing to support their own state in this regard...

Whereas, the Colorado lawmakers have taken more decisive action. Three house members backed a bill to prevent the fed's from pre-empting state law. Of the 10 representatives who authored the bill, NONE are from Washington.

Maybe Patty Murry should smoke a joint and work on THIS instead running headlong over the cliff.

Excon

Ex I don't see the problem, possession for your own use is legal, trafficking in any form isn't, so you can possess it but you can't buy it at the corner store. It is perfectly clear. Maybe you can grow your own, maybe not,

No . The problem is that the Feds still have possession laws... and as we all know ;the left believes in the supremacy of the Federal Government .

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no . The problem is that the Feds still have posession laws ... and as we all know ;the left believes in the supremacy of the Federal Government .

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Kind of puts them in a knot, like running from raising taxes and cutting defense spending. .

These things are question of enforcement, so if you get caught in an FBI or a Federal drugs bust you will be done for possession, but the local cops aren't going to be worried about small quantities unless there is dealing. This is why having state laws and federal laws can create a mess, but you average teen isn't going to start life of crime for possession

The federal law can be changed to take marijuana off the control list, but that's up to the congress. Until then the feds have to do their job.

You want Congress who can't agree on a change to tax rates to change the law on drugs, good luck with that

Jefferson and Madison argued that if the federal government has the exclusive right to judge the extent of its own powers, it will continue to grow regardless of elections, the separation of powers, and other limits on government power. States have always had the power of nullification of Federal Law. there were states that nullified prohibition long before the amendment was reversed.
Now everyone here knows what I think of legalizing pot. But that is not the issue here . The people of Washington have had their say.

It could be said the people had their say recently, it doesn't stop obstructionism. By your own words Tom you have both said that the federal law supercedes the state law and the state law supercedes the federal law. I guess it is that common good argument all over again. Who is the common, the people of the state or the people of the country. Seriously I don't know why you have a federal country

Yeah there are some things that are Federal perusal . I understand it can be confusing.. But all one has to do is look at the defined powers of the Federal Government in the Constitution and the 10 th amendment as a guide.

What does it matter if people do their own thing anyway, you had a war because some states wanted to leave, those people obviously thought the state transcended the constitution. You should have let them go