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  • Sep 25, 2009, 06:21 PM
    twinkiedooter
    Are you going to get either the seasonal flu shot or the swine flu shot?
    Don't know how to do a "poll" so I'll just ask this

    Are you or anyone in your family planning on getting the seasonal flu shot this year?

    Are you or anyone in your family planning on getting the series of swine flu shots this year?

    Have you or any of your family members ever had a flu shot and got very ill a week or so later with the worst flu you ever had?

    My son and I are not planning on getting either flu shots this year or any year. We both had seasonal flu shots about 14 years ago and we both got extremely ill with bad flu symptoms about a week after the shots. We were very ill for about 3 weeks.

    How about you? What are you planning on doing this fall?
  • Sep 25, 2009, 06:26 PM
    firmbeliever

    Twink,
    The poll option is a bit below.. way below " Manage Attachments".
  • Sep 25, 2009, 06:46 PM
    paraclete
    Flu
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by twinkiedooter View Post
    Don't know how to do a "poll" so I'll just ask this

    Are you or anyone in your family planning on getting the seasonal flu shot this year?

    Are you or anyone in your family planning on getting the series of swine flu shots this year?

    Have you or any of your family members ever had a flu shot and got very ill a week or so later with the worst flu you ever had?

    My son and I are not planning on getting either flu shots this year or any year. We both had seasonal flu shots about 14 years ago and we both got extremely ill with bad flu symptoms about a week after the shots. We were very ill for about 3 weeks.

    How about you? What are you planning on doing this fall?

    Missed the seasonal flu shot this year but will definitely get the H1N1 shot. I have not experienced any problems with previous flu shots but then I did have a very bad case of flu as a child and it may have given me some immunity. If you have risk factors it is not worth the risk of adding to them.
  • Sep 25, 2009, 06:55 PM
    paraclete
    Out of date
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by twinkiedooter View Post

    Did you happen to notice the date on this particular piece of paranoia? 1977. More than thirty years ago. If you want to discuss today's diseases it might be relevant to use recent articles as we have moved on a long way in thirty years
  • Sep 26, 2009, 05:14 AM
    speechlesstx

    The wife and I always get a flu shot. Not sure if we'll do the swine flu shot or not but probably. And I'm sure your illness after getting the shots was coincidental, you cannot get the flu from a flu shot as the virus in the vaccine is dead. You can get mild symptoms however as a result of the shot. On the other hand the nasal version uses a weakened virus so don't go that route if you're over 50 or have a weakened immune system.
  • Sep 26, 2009, 02:57 PM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    did you happen to notice the date on this particular piece of paranoia? 1977. More than thirty years ago. If you want to discuss today's diseases it might be relevant to use recent articles as we have moved on a long way in thirty years

    I mentioned that date in another thread.

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-...lu-394190.html

    I've already gotten my flu shot.

    You know, the flu shot made these days is made from a DEAD virus. You CAN't get sick from it. If you get sick you were already infected prior to getting the shot.

    Yes, I am the local flu shot nurse as well as the L&D nurse.
  • Sep 26, 2009, 03:55 PM
    Stringer

    We have never gotten sick from a flu shot and we have been getting it for the last ten years or so.

    We both have gotten one this year and plan to get the H1N1 or swine flu shot as soon as it is available.

    I have some respiratory problems and don't want to take the chance by not getting it...

    Stringer
  • Sep 26, 2009, 05:11 PM
    J_9
    Years ago the flu shot was made with either a live virus or an attinuated virus, these days it is made with a laboratory produced strain with a dead virus.

    I discuss this with virtually every person I give the shot to during October and November.

    You can be exposed to the flu virus and it takes 10 or more days to show symptoms. Now, if you have been exposed and during the incubation period you get the shot, of course you are still going to get sick. That has nothing to do with the shot, but rather the prior exposure to the virus.
  • Sep 26, 2009, 06:21 PM
    twinkiedooter
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    did you happen to notice the date on this particular piece of paranoia? 1977. More than thirty years ago. If you want to discuss today's diseases it might be relevant to use recent articles as we have moved on a long way in thirty years

    Yes, I am quite aware that this article was from 1977. I can post different articles if you want from this past summer if you are concerned about how "out of date" this article is. In any event, it does contain a lot of information on virus and vaccination and is quite relevant even today.
  • Sep 26, 2009, 06:25 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by twinkiedooter View Post
    I can post different articles if you want from this past summer if you are concerned about how "out of date" this article is.

    Yes, please post them if they are from reputable sources.
  • Sep 26, 2009, 06:52 PM
    twinkiedooter

    Ten Things You're Not Supposed to Know about the Swine Flu Vaccine

    former vaccine development scientist speaks out on the dangers and ineffectuality of vaccination

    Vactruth.com

    How's that for starters for 2009?

    Also, whoever made up the poll for me (thank you) you forgot to add an option of NO, I am not taking any flu shots. Could you please add that in for me?
  • Sep 26, 2009, 07:24 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by twinkiedooter View Post
    How's that for starters for 2009?

    Reputable sources, please.
  • Sep 26, 2009, 07:29 PM
    twinkiedooter

    YouTube - Doctor Admits Vaccine Is More Deadly Than Swine Flu Itself & Will Not Give It To His Kids
  • Sep 26, 2009, 07:37 PM
    Stringer

    So J what is your opinion on this Swine Flu Shot?
  • Sep 27, 2009, 09:45 AM
    J_9
    I have edited the poll to include "Neither"

    Twinkie... the links you have provided above are NOT from reputable sources.

    This would be considered a reputable source

    CDC H1N1 Flu | Questions & Answers Novel H1N1 Influenza Vaccine

    As well as this one

    FDA Approves Vaccines for 2009 H1N1 Influenza Virus

    Stringer, my opinion on the H1N1 vaccination has been made very clear. It should be taken by anyone that is in the high risk category, such as pregnant women, young children, people in the health care field where they will be exposed, people with immuno deficiencies, etc.

    While I admire and respect Twinkie very much, I think she is attempting to start a panic where the vaccine is concerned. Vaccines have cured many past illnesses such as smallpox and polio just to name two.

    I will be giving the vaccine to my children (as youngsters under the age of 25 fall into the high risk group), and will be taking it myself as I work in the medical field with pregnant women who also fall under the high risk group.

    Remember people, don't panic... it's JUST a flu. More people die yearly from the regular ole seasonal flu.
  • Sep 27, 2009, 09:50 AM
    J_9
    Another reliable source

    JAMA -- CDC Names H1N1 Vaccine Priority Groups, September 16, 2009, Kuehn 302 (11): 1157
  • Sep 27, 2009, 09:58 AM
    shazamataz

    I have voted for "neither"

    This is because I am young, healthy and have not had any respiratory problems in the past.
    I see no need for me to get the vaccine as I have also already had 'swine flu' making me partially immune.

    I do not see these shots as being dangerous, in fact I think they are excellent for those who have had problems in the past or for the very young or elderly.
  • Sep 27, 2009, 10:00 AM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shazamataz View Post
    I have voted for "neither"

    This is because I am young, healthy and have not had any respiratory problems in the past.
    I see no need for me to get the vaccine as I have also already had 'swine flu' making me partially immune.

    I do not see these shots as being dangerous, infact I think they are excellent for those who have had problems in the past or for the very young or elderly.

    Shazzy, you are correct. You don't need the vaccine. Although my children have had a mild case of the H1N1 virus, my youngest son falls into a high risk category with asthma, he will be getting the shot.

    **EDIT** another reputable source

    http://www.pandemicflu.gov/
  • Sep 27, 2009, 10:05 AM
    XOXOlove

    I'm not getting the shot either. I have never had the flu or the flu shot.
  • Sep 27, 2009, 11:48 AM
    shazamataz

    I thought so J_9, it's mainly targeted for those who already have respiratory issues (such as your sons asthma) and the eldery.

    My grandmother will certainly be getting the flu shot, I shudder to think what would happen to her if she did not get the shot and then contracted H1N1 (she is almost 90)

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