Dr. Bill,
I had 2 32 oz miller lights between 6:00pm and 8:00pm on Friday night, then had an ETG test on Monday at about 2:30pm. I am 150lb 23 yr old male- with a high/ fast metabolism. What are my chances of passing?

My mistake, I had 2 24 oz miller lights, so a total of 48 oz in a 2 hour period from 6pm to 8pm.

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My mistake, I had 2 24 oz miller lights, so a total of 48 oz in a 2 hour period from 6pm to 8pm.

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Chug-a-lug-chug-a-lug... 2+ drinks per hour... leading indicator of AUD*

Now, will you pass the EtG test? I would be willing to bet that you will based on the information provided.

Please report your results so others may benefit from your experience,


*Drink spacing indication of Alcohol Use Disorder per clinical experience of DrBill

Will do, I have been drinking since I was about 15 every other weekend and it started progressing as I got older. Starting at about the age of 20 I picked up the habit every other day and most days back to back. Not literally every day of the week but pretty close. I don't want to view myself as having a problem but it doesn't take an idiot to see the way things are unfolding. The way I view my "problem" is that I'm a young adult doing what every young adult does at this age in their life. I would like to know your thoughts or views on this issue, and how I should approach this in my distant future. If this isn't your thing that's cool, just wanted additional information while we were on the subject of

Alcohol use disorder.

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Will do, I have been drinking since I was about 15 every other weekend and it started progressing as I got older. Starting at about the age of 20 I picked up the habit every other day and most days back to back. Not literally every day of the week but pretty close. I don't want to view myself as having a problem but it doesn't take an idiot to see the way things are unfolding. The way I view my "problem" is that I'm a young adult doing what every young adult does at this age in their life. I would like to know your thoughts or views on this issue, and how I should approach this in my distant future. If this isn't your thing that's cool, just wanted additional information while we were on the subject of

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I have been drinking since I was about 15 every other weekend and it started progressing as I got older. Starting at about the age of 20 I picked up the habit every other day and most days back to back.

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Age when you began drinking on a regular basis, progressive amounts and frequency. All signs that can lead to a problem. Regular drinking during teen years is many times the foundation. Of course, as you note you had and have peer support. By now you have a high tolerance for alcohol, requiring more to get same result.

Therefore, the rapid consumption as noted above. My first thought when seeing that is that the individual is drinking for intoxication, not socially... not for the taste... but for the result. How it makes them feel.

Don't know why you are subjected to EtG, but it is a measure used in total abstinence programs only. If your drinking has created a circumstance, legal, social or otherwise and you continue to drink despite the problem(s) that is an indication. Beyond the problems you are further willing to put yourself at risk of detection and resultant consequences in order to drink.

The foregoing are simply superficial observations. NOT a diagnosis. AUDs follow wide and diverse patterns. In the overwhelming majority the physical need is mild, more adaptive than addiction. Particularly true in your age group. When you stop drinking there is no withdrawal but some discomfort, maybe. It is the psychological attachment that predominates, in most cases.

Finally, it sounds as though you think that you have a problem. That is the most important item and also necessary in order for intervention.

Here is a link to NIAAA that describes the current view of AUDs. First time in 35 years that I have agreed with the group. >LINK

I have been in the field for years and am familiar with treatment methods and modalities. May be able to help you filter through some of them. Must warn you however, that despite being the most pervasive problem in our culture, the medical and professional response is severely limited and remains locked-in to ideas that have advanced little since the 1930s.

Well I appreciate the insight, Dr. Bill. I ended up getting on probation for a DWI, which in turn the judge has ordered the total absence. Despite verything though, I did pass the UA and have decided to just smply obide to the terms of my probation to prevent something like this happening again. #straightedge