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The White House ordered the name of the USS McCain covered by a tarp during Trump's visit to Japan. The sailors were told to cover the name of the ship on their caps. Those who had the ship name on their caps were not admitted to the ceremony. There is no end to this bozo's narcissism.
Verified by the Wall Street Journal.
one day there will be a USS Trump we can hope it will be a garbage scow
Reported this morning that an aid requested this from the Pentagon, unknown to the dufus, but are his aids that worried about pleasing the boss? That's pretty nuts to me, but par for the course it seems for this insane WH!
yes it was a kiss a$$ underling presuming what Trump would want. The move doesn't only disrespect McCain ;it also disrespects all the sailors assigned to the boat .Quote:
Reported this morning that an aid requested this from the Pentagon, unknown to the dufus,
so, respect, how does that work out
unfortunately too many people are taking their cues from the President . The down side to him being President is that he is a disgusting human .
No argument there.
U.S. Indo-Pacific Command was listed as to having given the order. Does not seem the White house issued the order. just someone in Navy over thinking and over stepping
and now the Navy is saying it did not happen. Does anyone have photo evidence or maybe testimonial from one of the crew ?
https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...dZTqErOOEa2qWM
We've had worse.
In his memoirs, longtime Johnson aide George Reedy painted an ugly portrait of LBJ, accusing him of being a womanizing, perverted drunkard who delighted in having conversations with people while he sat on the toilet for the sole purpose of making them uncomfortable and bullying his staff to the point of sadism. Johnson was especially fond of whipping out his manhood, which he’d dubbed “Jumbo,” in mixed company. There is even a story, possibly apocryphal, that he urinated on a Secret Service agent’s leg, claiming it was his “prerogative.” Johnson’s behavior could be so reprehensible that it has been suggested that he was likely mentally ill, possessed of more “‘grandiose narcissism” than any other president in history.
At least LBJ spoke in full sentences and didn't tweet.Quote:
Johnson’s behavior could be so reprehensible that it has been suggested that he was likely mentally ill, possessed of more “‘grandiose narcissism” than any other president in history.
Must be a scary place to work when you have to cater to the boss to that extent. Unless you really believe the boss had nothing to do with it. With this boss you can never tell.
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Must be a scary place to work when you have to cater to the boss to that extent
yup just ask Monica Lewinski ,Paula Jones ,Kathleen Willey ,Juanita Broaddrick ,Leslie Millwee
Or you could ask the dufus about Stormy and the bunny. This is current events after all.
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Or you could ask the dufus about Stormy and the bunny. This is current events after all.
Neither of them had the opportunity to acquire the "Presidential knee pads."
So the solution is for the American people, having passed on the option of electing Saint Clinton, to vote in that paragon of virtue, Joe Biden?
Finding a bold, efficient, self-controlled, ethical, and high-character president is a tough undertaking. All this whining from the "vote Clinton" crowd gets old. If democrats want to complain about it, they might want to nominate a genuinely viable alternative.
In the meantime, both dems and repubs want to vote in infrastructure spending with, as usual, no idea of how to pay for it other than more borrowing. Every dem pres candidate has endorsed AOC's loony "Green New Deal", projected to cost a ridiculously impossible 90 trillion dollars. The national debt is now about 200 thou for every federal income tax payer. A day of reckoning is coming.
so they are going to settle for the flip-flop man, fourth time might be lucky. You know, when people say NO! NO! NO! you just have to listen to them
This whole thread illustrates what is tricky in American politics. It begins with,, and ends with a statement that the WSJ had verified the story. Then it is pointed out that, no, it is not true, and so the WSJ must have had it wrong. Stories in the media seem to grow with a life of their own. By the time the truth comes out, everyone has grown weary of hearing about it and no longer cares. A careful, professional, unbiased media would be a wonderful thing.Quote:
Can You Believe This? It's True!
"The Navy's spokesman, Adm. Charlie Brown, wrote on Twitter that the ship's name was not obscured on Memorial Day at the time of President Trump's visit.
"The name of USS John S. McCain was not obscured during the POTUS visit to Yokosuka on Memorial Day," Adm. Charlie Brown tweeted. "The Navy is proud of that ship, its crew, its namesake and its heritage."
A request to do so had been sent from the WH.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Isn't that what starts these boneheaded media frenzies in the first place? Some boneheaded words or antics by the WH?
The thread has been confirmed not only by the WSJ but also by ABC News, UPI, AP and just about every other legitimate media outlet which covered and followed the story (including the cable news channels and FOX - Trump's private channel).Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
It must be hard on you to consistently put down on imperishable internet sites your errors and mistakes that are shown as such by verifiable accounts from dozens of other sources.
I don't know why you do this other than to follow Trump who is making a career of lying daily and then repeating such a lie a day later even after incontrovertible proof has been shown that his comment is a lie!
Thank you, WG, for also pointing out the error, and noting the source was Trump's White House.
Oh angry man, would ABC News be enough for you?
(WASHINGTON) -- Despite preliminary discussions to the contrary, U.S. Navy leaders decided not to cover up the name of the USS John S. McCain, as requested by the White House, prior to President Donald Trump's visit to Japan, U.S. officials told ABC News. http://abcnewsradioonline.com/politi...rump-visi.html
The only links I can find that say it was Trump are all many days old. There evidently was a request made by some lower official in the White House, but it was never carried out.
I do this because the truth is important. There is no evidence Trump lied about this. In your statement, you start off well enough by saying that the white house requested this, and then made your mistake by assuming it originated with Trump.Quote:
I don't know why you do this other than to follow Trump who is making a career of lying daily and then repeating such a lie a day later even after incontrovertible proof has been shown that his comment is a lie!
I actually was not making a statement against you. I was simply pointing out how the story had changed since about 10 days ago when it first became public. Calm down. The whole world is not against you.
Trump, June 9, 2019:
MEXICO HAS AGREED TO IMMEDIATELY BEGIN BUYING LARGE QUANTITIES OF AGRICULTURAL PRODUCT FROM OUR GREAT PATRIOT FARMERS!
*cough* America's agricultural exports to Mexico already total $18 billion. Trump is like a rooster taking credit for sunrise.
Where does Athos say the request originated with Trump?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
"There is no end to this bozo's narcissism." The statement would be senseless if he was not clearly intimating that Trump was the source of the order. Now I would agree that Trump is narcissistic, but this story does not lend support to that idea.Quote:
Where does Athos say the request originated with Trump?
Suppose they increase to 24 bil. Would that make Trump correct?Quote:
*cough* America's agricultural exports to Mexico already total $18 billion. Trump is like a rooster taking credit for sunrise.
Is waltero sharing his comic books with you? Athos started out by saying, "The White House ordered the name of the USS McCain covered by a tarp during Trump's visit to Japan."Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
We all know the guy is narcissistic. As do his protective lackeys in the WH.
So what do you suppose he meant by that? The statement has to have some connection to his initial post. What does it mean? Why say it if it doesn't clearly convey the idea that the order originated with Trump?Quote:
There is no end to this bozo's narcissism.
Nope!Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Suppose the dufus just shuts up for a while. His silence would make him correct as compared to his lying exaggerations. I'd be happy!
He meant Trump will do anything to inflate his own ego -- or have others help him do so. And yes, it was definitely in the realm of possibility and very believable that Trump ordered the covering of the ship name so he wouldn't have to see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Yeah. I'm sure you're right. Who cares about a 33% increase in sales? Now if Obama had done that, you would be singing his praises.Quote:
Nope!
Politics. Pure politics.
It makes no sense to make the statement without conveying the idea that the order originated with Trump. Take off your liberal colored glasses.Quote:
He meant Trump will do anything to inflate his own ego -- or have others help him do so. And yes, it was definitely in the realm of possibility and very believable that Trump ordered the covering of the ship name so he wouldn't have to see it.
If Obama had acted like Trump, I would have dumped him long ago, from the get-go. The agriculture reference was to avoid the immigration reference. You know how Trump deflects.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
There's a very obvious way to rationally and reasonably counter what I said without insulting me. Sorry you're missing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
If a person wants to demonstrate that Trump is a narcissist, why would he use an example of another person issuing an order? Your take just does not make sense.
Trump has done nothing that amounts to the gross mismanagement and indifference to American lives demonstrated by Obama and Clinton at Benghazi, and then the well-orchestrated, intentional lying that went on afterwards to insure Obama's reelection.
This was more an example of a dufus staffer either sucking up, or thinking the boss is to much an emotionally immature nincompoop that would embarrass himself in public over such a thing, or and we can never know the dufus lied when he said he had no knowledge of the order which he has done before. Like he had no knowledge of paying a porn star to shut up about an affair, okay any married man would do that or he had no knowledge of his staffers meeting Russians, or he was exonerated by the Mueller report.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Can't blame anyone for not believing a word he says.
You wish! You just had to bring up that Benghazi BS to deflect from the CURRENT conversation, about the CURRENT prez, knowing good and darn NOBODY in HISTORY lies as much as the dufus! You are just wrong to keep beating that dead horse, since it's obvious the dufus has to stokes his right wing loony base so he can get re elected and stay out of jail himself.Quote:
Trump has done nothing that amounts to the gross mismanagement and indifference to American lives demonstrated by Obama and Clinton at Benghazi, and then the well-orchestrated, intentional lying that went on afterwards to insure Obama's reelection.
Pure politics as you say? That's an accurate statement about the CURRENT state of affairs dufus style.
I brought it up because WG said, "If Obama had acted like Trump, I would have dumped him long ago, from the get-go", but the Benghazi incident was far worse than anything Trump has done and yet she seemed to have tolerated it quite well.
What about the Niger incident and Trump's shaming the widow of one of the four slain Green Berets?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
1. In what way was Trump responsible for the Niger incident?
2. He was clumsy in what he said to the widow, but it did not cause any loss of life.
Interesting to me that you would bring up those incidents about Trump, but give Obama a complete pass about Benghazi. Like I said earlier, politics.
When the soldiers were ambushed, no American helicopters came to their rescue. Although Congress had never authorized the mission in Niger -- as is required by the Constitution -- the military’s Africa command had asked lawmakers for more help months before the attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
According the the military report, "Approximately one hour after taking fire, the team requested support. And within minutes, a remotely piloted aircraft arrived overhead. Within an hour, French Mirage jets arrived on station."Quote:
When the soldiers were ambushed, no American helicopters came to their rescue.
We can only wish that the Obama admin had responded with that kind of speed.
Asked who??? Trump, or lawmakers?Quote:
Although Congress had never authorized the mission in Niger -- as is required by the Constitution -- the military’s Africa command had asked lawmakers for more help months before the attack.
Who first put the troops into Niger? If you guessed Mr. Obama, you guessed right. So are you criticizing him for putting those troops into Niger?
And???Quote:
NOBODY in HISTORY lies as much as the dufus!
We built this society to be as it is. didn’t we?
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Originally Posted by jlisenbe
As WG pointed out, I did NOT say it originated with Trump. My comment was simply a general statement re Trump's narcissism. However, if it makes you happy, I DO believe it originated with Trump.
Trump's acting secretary of something or other Mulvey admitted on national television it originated from the White House. He then claimed it originated with "some second or third level" WH staff member. Yeah, right.
Does anyone really believe second or third level staff members issue orders or requests to the United States Navy without Trump's approval? Hardly. Even staff closest to Trump would run such an order by Trump. If there's anything we've learned about Trump he is an obsessive manager who wants to know about everything and forbids actions without his approval.
Telling a staff member to hide the name of the ship because it celebrated the McCain family is exactly something Trump would do - his modus operandi stretching far back into the Trump Organization. Cowardly, he gets others to do his dirty work, usually from his stable of lawyers, but any WH staff member will do.
I have no proof of this. It is my opinion.
God bless the Navy who recognized an idiotic order and refused to carry it out.
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