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Trump Reported to Cheat Giuliani

This is classic Trump. When he doesn’t like something, he stops the check. He just refuses to pay you for pure spite.

Giuliani charging $20,000 a DAY for his services is pretty pathetic especially since Trump has nothing to show for it other than the signal honor of being the ONLY SITTING PRESIDENT to be Impeached TWICE!

Trump cares not a whit what trouble Giuliani might be in.

He didn’t win the election for Trump.
He didn't get a single State to stop the vote count.
He didn't get a single election official to stop the certification.
He didn't get a single State vote count to find more votes for Trump.
He didn't get a single State to declare Biden's votes invalid.
He didn't get Congress to overturn the election.

It’s pathetically, embarrassingly, much much simpler: When Trump is Unhappy— He just doesn’t Pay you. Nothing more complicated than that.

Ask the hundreds of contractors and small businesses that have had the misfortune of thinking that Trump Inc was the Big Ticket. Ask the Banks that got shafted when Trump refused to pay them and argued that it was THEIR FAULT for lending him the money in the first place.

classic Trump when he fails, you fail

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Originally Posted by paraclete

classic Trump when he fails, you fail

Just those who believe and follow this fool. The rest of us shake our heads and say told you so.

Tal you may have noticed Trump failed and now your nation has decended into chaos but I hope this will be short lived. Wake up america the world needs you

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the world needs you

finally admitting it ?

The dufus was dumped and the power has shifted slightly to a more reasonable approach but our battles are never over. The volume has been dialed down somewhat, but still a ways to go with covid still ravaging the land.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

finally admitting it ?

I said the world, I wasn't referring to any thing I need

Hermits don't need much but you're nation needs commerce like everybody else. Call us! We have better prices than the roos.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Hermits don't need much but you're nation needs commerce like everybody else. Call us! We have better prices than the roos.

What are you talking about? roos eat grass and you can't out bid the Chinese. We learned to live without "commerce" as your multinationals have steadily withdrawn leaving us a post industrial wasteland, any of this familiar? We do what we have done for centuries

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Wake up america the world needs you

The truth finally comes out. It is refreshing.

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Originally Posted by paraclete

What are you talking about? roos eat grass and you can't out bid the Chinese. We learned to live without "commerce" as your multinationals have steadily withdrawn leaving us a post industrial wasteland, any of this familiar? We do what we have done for centuries

Well geez, you can't call us, the Chinese or the roos so who you gonna call? Exactly what have you done for centuries beside walk with the big dog through the neighborhood?

Dominion is suing Rudy for defamation .The $1.3 billion complaint claims that Rudy , Sidney Powell, Russell Ramsland, L. Lin Wood, Mike Lindell, Patrick Byrne, Lou Dobbs, Fox News, Fox Business, Newsmax, One America News Network, and The Epoch Times peddled " defamatory falsehoods”.

Yes Dominion has deep pockets and your typical accused would get scared off by the amount and try to settle . But Rudy is a accomplished public attorney and knows all the tricks of the trade .

All I have to say to Dominion is be careful what you wish for . Discovery is a B+tch. Rudy says that this is going to allow him to investigate Dominion “fully and completely " ;something that he was not given a chance to do during the post election challenges .

I wonder how much of that is bluster to cover his own butt, since he made some serious allegations with no show of evidence. Countersuits are a typical delay tactic and I doubt he has a strong case to open up the company books as he claims, but we'll see. Given his performance during the dufus years, I ain't betting on his horse.

Discovery baby! Dominion just bought themselves ton of trouble . For Dominion to prevail they will have to allow access to the machines and programing and source code used in the election for forensic examination . If the don't then their case will be dismissed and it will give added weight to the claims made against them.

You're a lousy lawyer, and not very astute on the law since Rudy would have to prove he knew those things for FACT when he made those allegations. If he cannot then his countersuit will be dismissed and no discovery granted and judgement for the plaintiff.

Why are you even listening to a guy with his track record of failure just this year?

Rudy is an accomplished lawyer ,prosecutor ,mayor ,and civil servant . Do not underestimate him despite his inclination to theatrics . I can show you photos of him where he buffonishly dressed up as a biker to go on a sting . Still he got the job done over and over .
Discovery is what a presiding judge allows . Now I admit that filing in the DC Circus was a good move by Dominion because they will probably assign the case to that clown Sullivan .
But Federal rules are clear . "Parties may obtain discovery regarding any nonprivileged matter that is relevant to any party's claim or defense.
For Rudy to be denied discovery request Dominion would have to prove that the request is not relevant

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Originally Posted by tomder55

For Dominion to prevail they will have to allow access to the machines and programing and source code used in the election for forensic examination .

Access to whom?

to whoever represents Rudy. Discovery is the pretrial phase when BOTH sides are permitted to investigate the facts by obtaining evidence from the other side including physical evidence, answers to inquiries depositions ,producing documents . In this case I would assume the voting machines being subject to forensic examination would be more than reasonable as well as examination of programing and source code and other e-discovery . They claim that the machines were not hooked up to the net. There is already an expert who proved that false by hacking into them during a hearing .
Dominion may try to say some of the stuff deposed is protected under something like trade secrets . A judge like Sullivan may even buy into that line of manure .

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Originally Posted by tomder55

But Rudy is a accomplished public attorney and knows all the tricks of the trade .

Tom, why do you insist on being on the wrong side of every legal issue discussed here? To make matters worse, you are jumping on the bandwagon of a trio of the biggest buffoons ever to inhabit the world of jurisprudence.

Rudy is second only in his buffoonery to the buffoon-in-chief now happily departed, the nutty-as-a-fruitcake Sidney Powell who promotes bizarre QANON and sees commies under every bed, and the certifiable Lin Wood who routinely calls for assassination of those he dislikes.

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from Tomder - Discovery baby! Dominion just bought themselves ton of trouble . For Dominion to prevail they will have to allow access to the machines and programing and source code used in the election for forensic examination . If the don't then their case will be dismissed and it will give added weight to the claims made against them.

News Flash, Tom. Dominion has already provided all the information - that you think will reveal so much chicanery - to the officials who use their machines - codes and all. There's nothing new for Rudy to discover!

Your support of Rudy who has clearly become unhinged over the last several years is troubling.

(NOTE: The networks are already backtracking and withdrawing/apologizing for their false reporting re Dominion).

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Well geez, you can't call us, the Chinese or the roos so who you gonna call? Exactly what have you done for centuries beside walk with the big dog through the neighborhood?

Tal sometimes big dogs attract unwarranted attention so maybe in future we will run with the pack