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  • Dec 8, 2021, 06:19 AM
    jlisenbe
    The elephant in the room
    FY DEFICIT (IN BILLIONS) DEBT INCREASE (IN BILLIONS) DEFICIT-TO-GDP RATIO
    2021 $3,000 $1,584 13.2%

    Note the difference between the deficit of 3 tril versus in increase in debt of only 1.6 tril. One can assume the other 1.4 tril came from "printed" money. It's just incredible that we stand by and tolerate this. After all, we must spend vast amounts of time of protecting the supposed rights of the TG crowd.

    Foolishness.
  • Dec 9, 2021, 04:27 AM
    tomder55
    Loose money has been a 2 edged coin for me . I was able to build up my portfolio .But now I am looking at inflation eroding the value of it at a time I am on a fixed income . I cannot predict the future but I am looking at potentially having to reenter the work force .

    From a broader economic outlook ,the nation's economic trajectory is lunacy ;doubly so because we already know where it leads.
    https://i0.wp.com/www.washingtonpost...ed-300x236.jpg
  • Dec 9, 2021, 05:11 AM
    tomder55
    Here is what is going to happen. Bond holders of US debt are holding non-inflation instruments that will lose value . So the government ,needing to service the debt will have to offer higher rates of return . So more of the budget has to be dedicated to debt service . If the government intends to keep it's discretionary and non-discretionary obligations it will have to gobble up more of the available credit making less credit available to the private sector ......or they can cut services .
  • Dec 9, 2021, 05:18 AM
    tomder55
    Remy: Raise the Debt Ceiling Rap (Again) - YouTube
  • Dec 9, 2021, 05:33 AM
    jlisenbe
    They could cut loose all mentally and physically healthy people from Welfare and tell them to find jobs which are thankfully out there in abundance. It would be good for them and good for the country.
  • Dec 9, 2021, 05:54 AM
    tomder55
    Workfare was the solution in the Bubba years .
  • Dec 10, 2021, 05:00 PM
    tomder55
    U.S. consumer price inflation jumps 6.8% year over year in November, the largest increase since 1982.
  • Dec 10, 2021, 05:56 PM
    jlisenbe
    So it turns out that just printing more money is not really the answer?
  • Dec 11, 2021, 06:11 AM
    tomder55
    Clueless Joe is still pushing the idea that passing spending bills will ease inflationary pressures .

    “For anyone who, like me, is concerned about costs facing American families, passing BBB is the most immediate and direct step we can take to deliver,”
    Statement by President Joe Biden on Today’s Consumer Price Index Data | The White House

    ok so $367 billion (according to the CBO) of unfunded spending will reduce inflation ?

    and that is with budget trickery , They said that if Build Brandon Better was properly funded for a decade it would require $ 3 trillion . But they lie and fund extending the enhanced child tax credit for only one year . As we all know ,government gimmies once passed are almost impossible to roll back.

    Then Clueless Joe blamed inflation on Covid and supply chain issues and bragged that gas prices had dropped pennies .

    “Half of the price increases in this report are in cars and energy costs from November. Since then, we have seen significant energy price reductions,”

    Tell the people of California that prices are droppinghttp://cdn5.moneynewsdaily.com/20121002011943cali.jpg
  • Dec 11, 2021, 06:45 AM
    jlisenbe
    If you're a dem, you must become a good, shall we say, "distorter of the truth". That's because the truth does not help you politically.
  • Dec 12, 2021, 04:28 AM
    tomder55
    inflation rose by 6.8 % this year according to a Labor Dept report . This is the largest increase in 40 years .

    CPI November 2021: Inflation surged 6.8% in November, more than expected, to fastest since 1982 (cnbc.com)
  • Dec 14, 2021, 05:48 AM
    tomder55
    Yesterday at the Summit for Democracy ,Clueless called a 40 year high in inflation a "bump in the road " . Then he mumbled some incoherence
    "I think you'll see it change sooner than, quicker than, more rapidly than it will take -- than most people think."
  • Dec 14, 2021, 10:29 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    "I think you'll see it change sooner than, quicker than, more rapidly than it will take -- than most people think."
    Yes. Now it is all crystal clear.
  • Dec 16, 2021, 05:39 AM
    tomder55
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGubyhPX...g&name=900x900
  • Dec 18, 2021, 05:48 AM
    tomder55
    a new study on over-weight domestic turkeys was conducted by Brown University .
    Waddle and shuffle: gait alterations associated with domestication in turkeys | Journal of Experimental Biology | The Company of Biologists

    Maybe you did not know (or care ) that turkeys in the wild are fit . They can run a 6 minute mile .
    This Turkey Is Exercising On A Treadmill While You're Eating His Brothers - Digg

    But the (overpriced this year because of the big meat conglomerates ) domestic turkey raised for human consumption is a grossly obese version of the bird Ben Franklin once thought should be the national bird of America.

    But who cares ? Evidently it was important enough for the government via the National Institutes of Health and the National Science Foundation to fund a $1.7 million grant to Brown U to conduct the study.

    Sen Joni Ernst gave NIH and NSF the November 'Squeal Award 'for this study.

    The Taxpayer Turkey Trot (senate.gov)

    Make 'em Squeal - Senator Joni Ernst (senate.gov)

    “With our national debt approaching $30 trillion and higher prices making it difficult for families to put food on the table, we cannot afford to continue wasting taxpayer dollars funding fowl projects … and folks, this one is a real turkey!”
  • Dec 18, 2021, 06:07 AM
    talaniman
    To help prevent the right wing noise machine from being an echo chamber I submit that government doesn't set prices, or wages... corporations do. That's where inflation comes from. Have fun on your new job, but don't blame Joe for your CHOICES.
  • Dec 18, 2021, 06:11 AM
    tomder55
    If I was in business making huge profits well above costs ,I could easily sell slightly less than my competitors and grab a whole lot of market share .

    I guess all American companies are engaged in this big price fixing scheme to screw over the customers they need to stay in business. Typical lib logic.
  • Dec 18, 2021, 06:12 AM
    jlisenbe
    No one "sets" prices. The market determines prices. When the gov begins to inject more dollars into the economy, then each dollar becomes worth a little less. Thus it takes more dollars to buy the same item.

    Sure am glad the Biden admin jumped all over the distribution problems with dozens of enormous container ships stuck in harbors. It would also be nice if they would fix the problems on the southern border including getting rid of the "cages" which liberal dems found so offensive during the Trump admin. Strangely, they are silent now. Wonder why? Stinkin politics?
  • Dec 18, 2021, 06:18 AM
    tomder55
    Warren Buffett the Dem's favorite corporate sage said this in a comment that he made supporting government debt.
    Quote:

    The chief worry about just printing money to pay obligations is inflation.“What you end up getting in terms of purchasing power can be in doubt,” Buffett said.
    Warren Buffett explains the simple reason why the U.S. will never default on its debt (yahoo.com)
  • Dec 18, 2021, 06:29 AM
    jlisenbe
    It always amazes me to read these, "We will never forfeit on our debt," articles. The average person reads that and thinks, "Then we can accumulate all the debt we want!" You can if you plan on handling the great pain that will accompany it. In America, if we don't kill our children before they are born, we instead burden them with enormous debt because, after all, we must find out about obesity in turkeys.

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