Objective Supporting Evidence for God's existence ?
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It took me quite some energy and time to find and retrieve this data from "Answerway".
This is the list of arguments that TJ3 (Tom Smith/Toms777) repeatedly claimed in 2007 to be Objective Supporting Evidence for the existence of God, and which he refuses to repost here for obvious reasons :
Blindness is no excuse!
As you well know, we have only two options, and that is that God created all that there is, or that it came about naturally.
I have asked a number of questions now to which to provide a plausible answer. If there is no possible means by which these events occurred naturally, then there is only once answer. God created and thus God exists. (*1*)
For each of these questions for which there is no natural answer, you have a proof of God.(*2*) And there are many many more proofs that could yet be posted.
The issues are :
EYE
How about the eye. Can anyone give a plausible explanation as to how the eye came to be?
DNA
In every living or previously living cell, we find an operating system (O/S) program written which is more complex than any MAC or PC.
In addition to the program, we find that every cell has the built in capability to read and interpret this programming language.
And this goes back to the simplest, and, according to evolutionists, most ancient type of cell in existence.
If one found a PC with Windows O/S on it, or even a simple handheld with Windows CE O/S on it, it would automatically be taken to be proof positive of the existence of a capable and intelligent advanced designer.
Do any atheists have a plausible explanation for how this advanced programming language, along with reader/interpreter came to be?
SIMPLE SINGLE CELL
How did the simple cells come to be created?
POND SCUM
Pericles claimed that the answer to the question above was that the single cells came from pond scum, which is in and itself a form of life - how did it come to be?
AUSTRALIAN BRUSH TURKEY
An interesting animal. It does not sit the eggs to incubate them, but rather creates a compost pile to provide the heat, which must be maintained at around 33 degrees. The eggs are laid down at the precise depth and in a circle where that exact heat will be maintained. The turkey does not lay the eggs right away, but waits until the compost pile has reached the necessary temperature.
The is requires that the brush turkey understand heat and decomposition, as well as how the heat radiates and be able to calculate the precise depth and pattern at which the necessary heat occurs. And it has to understand that this is all required to hatch chicks.
To have gained this knowledge by chance would be impossible because there are too many variables to all the brush turkey to figure out the linkage between heat and hatching eggs and then precisely what heat is required and how to obtain it.
The existence of God and his creation of this animal explains this.
MACAWS
Macaws are birds that feed on poisonous seeds, and in order to live, after they eat, they must eat a certain type of mud which neutralizes the poison.
How did this evolve? What is the natural explanation for this? The existence of God explains it.
Blindness is no excuse!
As you well know, we have only two options, and that is that God created all that there is, or that it came about naturally.
I have asked a number of questions now to which to provide a plausible answer. If there is no possible means by which these events occurred naturally, then there is only once answer. God created and thus God exists. (*1*)
For each of these questions for which there is no natural answer, you have a proof of God.(*2*) And there are many many more proofs that could yet be posted.
The issues are :
EYE
How about the eye. Can anyone give a plausible explanation as to how the eye came to be?
DNA
In each and every living or previously living cell, we find an operating system (O/S) program written which is more complex than any MAC or PC.
In addition to the program, we find that each and every cell has the built in capability to read and interpret this programming language.
And this goes back to the simplest, and, according to evolutionists, most ancient type of cell in existence.
If one found a PC with Windows O/S on it, or even a simple handheld with Windows CE O/S on it, it would automatically be taken to be proof positive of the existence of a capable and intelligent advanced designer.
Do any atheists have a plausible explanation for how this advanced programming language, along with reader/interpreter came to be?
SIMPLE SINGLE CELL
How did the simple cells come to be created?
POND SCUM
Pericles claimed that the answer to the question above was that the single cells came from pond scum, which is in and itself a form of life - how did it come to be?
AUSTRALIAN BRUSH TURKEY
An interesting animal. It does not sit the eggs to incubate them, but rather creates a compost pile to provide the heat, which must be maintained at around 33 degrees. The eggs are laid down at the precise depth and in a circle where that exact heat will be maintained. The turkey does not lay the eggs right away, but waits until the compost pile has reached the necessary temperature.
The is requires that the brush turkey understand heat and decomposition, as well as how the heat radiates and be able to calculate the precise depth and pattern at which the necessary heat occurs. And it has to understand that this is all required to hatch chicks.
To have gained this knowledge by chance would be impossible because there are too many variables to all the brush turkey to figure out the linkage between heat and hatching eggs and then precisely what heat is required and how to obtain it.
The existence of God and his creation of this animal explains this.
MACAWS
Macaws are birds that feed on poisonous seeds, and in order to live, after they eat, they must eat a certain type of mud which neutralizes the poison.
How did this evolve? What is the natural explanation for this? The existence of God explains it.
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If you cannot provide a plausible answer, then that is as good as an admission that you know that God exists, but cannot bring yourself to admit the truth.
I look forward to your response.
Tom
P.S.: It is great that you give me the opportunity to keep posting this so that people can see that in fact you have no answers to these proofs of God's existence.
If you cannot provide a plausible answer, then that is as good as an admission that you know that God exists, but cannot bring yourself to admit the truth.
I look forward to your response.
Tom
P.S.: It is great that you give me the opportunity to keep posting this so that people can see that in fact you have no answers to these proofs of God's existence.
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(*1*) : "If there is no possible means by which these events occurred naturally, then there is only once answer. God created and thus God exists."
That is an incorrect conclusion. There are many (other) possible answers, of which the suggested answer is only one! At most it is confirming that so far no other valid explanation has been found. It is certainly NOT objective proof for god's existence !
(*2*) : "For each of these questions for which there is no natural answer, you have a proof of God".
That is also an incorrect conclusion. It is only proof that so far no natural answer has been found ! It is certainly NOT objective proof for god's existence !
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Well folks : there you have Tj3's list of "Objective Supporting Evidence for the existence of God".
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Do you agree that this is a list with "Objective Supporting Evidence for the existence of God", or is this only a list of Subjective Supporting Arguments for creationist claims?
Please explain on which grounds you decided that.
:)
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